Opinion: TFP's engine is underleveraged

[Kauldric]

The voxel engine, despite its kinks, has allowed TFP to make amazing POIs. The potential for what the game could be is severely limited due to modders not being officially supported...

[Fido]

In what sense do you mean "officially supported" here?

[Kauldric]

Like in the workshop. Similar to how it is for Minecraft bedrock.

[James]

I'm curious as to why you think they don't support modders?

The idea that TFP don't support modders is nothing more than an unsubstantiated claim, and I'm not sure where or how it even started since TFP have done a lot to make modding easier and have kept modders in mind when making changes. For example, they take away something like empty jars, blunderbuss, etc. Instead of erasing them from the game entierly, they simply comment them out so they can be put back into game with ease. Whenever you go to mod something. They will add comments to show you how it works and give examples.

[Kauldric]

Have you ever played Minecraft bedrock edition?

[Vi-El]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Have you ever played Minecraft bedrock edition?

You understand that the mods for Bedrock very lacking and a lot of the fancier ones are literally on their storefront right?
You might wanna go with Java if you wanna point at a supported modding experience.
Cause the one you described is only given to official "addon" creators which by the end costs money.

[James]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Have you ever played Minecraft bedrock edition?

No. I've never played mindcraft. But why don't you think TFP support modders?

I'm not asking to be rude or combative or anything. I'm really just trying to understand why you think this.

[James]

Your entitled to your opinion and that's fine. I'm simply trying to understand where the basis of your opinion comes from.

[Kauldric]

Originally posted by Black Puppet:

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Have you ever played Minecraft bedrock edition?

You understand that the mods for Bedrock very lacking and a lot of the fancier ones are literally on their storefront right?
You might wanna go with Java if you wanna point at a supported modding experience.
Cause the one you described is only given to official "addon" creators which by the end costs money.

Doesn’t matter since MS makes millions of that

[Fido]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Originally posted by Black Puppet:

You understand that the mods for Bedrock very lacking and a lot of the fancier ones are literally on their storefront right?
You might wanna go with Java if you wanna point at a supported modding experience.
Cause the one you described is only given to official "addon" creators which by the end costs money.

Doesn’t matter since MS makes millions of that

My dude, you brought it up, how does it "not matter"?

[Vi-El]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Originally posted by Black Puppet:

You understand that the mods for Bedrock very lacking and a lot of the fancier ones are literally on their storefront right?
You might wanna go with Java if you wanna point at a supported modding experience.
Cause the one you described is only given to official "addon" creators which by the end costs money.

Doesn’t matter since MS makes millions of that

Thats not the point. The point is, they support the addonmakers with money. Therefor the addonmakers have the money to hire people. From model creators, to coders and so on. You cannot sit there and say it doesnt matter.

Java is more supported than Bedrock and that without any money given to the modders and we still got the glory that is the Create mod, all through sheer passion and later support by the community.

If your argument is that TFP should hire modders, then I say: Lets maybe wait for Gold.

[minisith]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

Originally posted by Black Puppet:

You understand that the mods for Bedrock very lacking and a lot of the fancier ones are literally on their storefront right?
You might wanna go with Java if you wanna point at a supported modding experience.
Cause the one you described is only given to official "addon" creators which by the end costs money.

Doesn’t matter since MS makes millions of that

Java mods has more flair and way better than any Bedrock store front mods.

[Deatheron]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

The voxel engine, despite its kinks, has allowed TFP to make amazing POIs. The potential for what the game could be is severely limited due to modders not being officially supported...

Really? There are great mods out there, even total conversions (sort of). Modding thread on official 7d2d forum is very active and modders are modding definitely doesn't look as 'severely limited' or being 'not officially supported'.

[maeharaprojekt]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

The voxel engine, despite its kinks, has allowed TFP to make amazing POIs. The potential for what the game could be is severely limited due to modders not being officially supported...

Last I heard, TFP devs do provide assistance to modders for issues and questions that are beyond the scope of what the MVPs in the modding community handle. If TFP was against modding, they would never have provided a space on the official forums for mod distribution, modding development discussion, mod requests, and etc.

The creativity displayed there is quite breathtaking. Take a look-see: https://community.7daystodie.com/forum/22-game-modification/

If you are talking about a Steam Workshop, I suspect that won't happen until the game reaches Version 1.0. A community rep would be better able to answer that.

Besides, 7Days modders have been creating and sharing for the whole community, not just Steam, without a Steam Workshop for many years.

[SylenThunder]

TFP has supported modders since Day 1.
Workshop support will be provided around the time when the game goes gold.

The idea that TFP isn't supporting modders just because there is no workshop support is simply ignorance.

And honestly, if you actually took the time to do research before starting this thread, you would have known all of this already.