A21 - One Shot By Irradiated Construction Zombie?

[Benny]

Currently playing A21 Experimental warrior difficulty. Last night I had an irradiated construciton zombie instantly kill me in one hit. 125 hp. I had full level 5 scrap armor except for cowboy hat & shades. No armor perks. Was looting level 4 grocery store. How hard do zombies hit & is it possible I was crit somehow?

Like one moment I was at spear range, the next I was in death cinematic animation getting eaten instantly. Im the server host so it can't be lag. Is this normal?

[MercenaryGrok]

they crit now

[Benny]

Originally posted by MercenaryGrok:

they crit now

Is that a new feature in A21? I haven't played in a few updates.

[MercenaryGrok]

pretty sure, i was on default and lost like 40 hp in a instant

[Benny]

Originally posted by MercenaryGrok:

pretty sure, i was on default and lost like 40 hp in a instant

Appreciate you taking the time to reply. Wow that is scary.

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Originally posted by MercenaryGrok:

pretty sure, i was on default and lost like 40 hp in a instant

[nightshark]

Originally posted by Benny:

Originally posted by MercenaryGrok:

they crit now

Is that a new feature in A21? I haven't played in a few updates.

Crits are common now. As you start you're likely to get crit often. The more times you get hit in succession the greater chance each hit has to crit you as well. The Magazines are the worst part atm as they are just delaying stuff like crazy reducing them forcing you to spend 60 days in game trying to make good stuff. You'll find weapons and armor and buy the rest before you even make them. The system makes no sense now for a crafting game and needs a buff instead of the nerf that they gave it reducing the amount given at traders(inculding the chance to get the bundle reward) and amount you're looting from mailboxes,newpaper stands etc.
I've only played sense 19 and a21 is great except the magazines especially mutiplayer trying to split the skills needed and letting one person loot. You both need lucky looter and to loot now. My suggestion is to not worry about books and read them for exp and dont' expect to actually make anything good mid tier or higher as chances are you won't need to do it as you'll find the loot or buy it from trader.

[nowhere man]

Damn that sounds exciting as heck.

But I think what may have happened to you is kind of a bug, or could it be server lag? Were you playing online or off? Also , sometimes you think you were at full HP but you were not. Happened to me before.

[subwaybananas]

the crits doesn´t do more damage, they affect you with a status like infection, broken legs, bleeding.
A 125 HP hit on warrior sounds like a bug, even the insane big dudes do "only" 100 unmittigated (40 on default). Warrior are 150% enemy damage (75% player damage). Insane 250% enemy 25% player (to zombies)

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by subwaybananas:

the crits doesn´t do more damage, they affect you with a status like infection, broken legs, bleeding.
A 125 HP hit on warrior sounds like a bug, even the insane big dudes do "only" 100 unmittigated (40 on default). Warrior are 150% enemy damage (75% player damage). Insane 250% enemy 25% player (to zombies)

Yeah I would bet that this was a bug, server lag (if he's on MP) or he didnt have full HP.

[subwaybananas]

Originally posted by nightshark:

[...]The Magazines are the worst part atm as they are just delaying stuff like crazy reducing them forcing you to spend 60 days in game trying to make good stuff. You'll find weapons and armor and buy the rest before you even make them. The system makes no sense now for a crafting game and needs a buff instead of the nerf that they gave it reducing the amount given at traders(inculding the chance to get the bundle reward) and amount you're looting from mailboxes,newpaper stands etc.
I've only played sense 19 and a21 is great except the magazines especially mutiplayer trying to split the skills needed and letting one person loot. You both need lucky looter and to loot now. My suggestion is to not worry about books and read them for exp and dont' expect to actually make anything good mid tier or higher as chances are you won't need to do it as you'll find the loot or buy it from trader.

Lucky looter increase your lootstage, but doesn´t affect the chance or amount for magazines or something. Its only for the tier system of the dropped gear, Like instead of a stone axe lvl 2 it drops a fire axe lvl 4 with better lootstage.
And i am current at the lootstage for T1 high / T2 low grade gear in T5 pois grasland and can craft T3 mid grade (steelweapon/tools lvl 2-3), Nailpistol is lvl 4, assault rifle 2 (okay T2), and steel knuckles 3. If you know where you have to look you get more than enough magazines. But i´m at you, the system isn´t fine. You have now to skill for what you want to loot...

[Pingoso]

With no armor on insane, a big momma zombie dealt 50 damage on one hit. Unless radiated zombies deal double damage, that sounds like a bug.

[Vi-El]

Originally posted by subwaybananas:

Originally posted by nightshark:

[...]The Magazines are the worst part atm as they are just delaying stuff like crazy reducing them forcing you to spend 60 days in game trying to make good stuff. You'll find weapons and armor and buy the rest before you even make them. The system makes no sense now for a crafting game and needs a buff instead of the nerf that they gave it reducing the amount given at traders(inculding the chance to get the bundle reward) and amount you're looting from mailboxes,newpaper stands etc.
I've only played sense 19 and a21 is great except the magazines especially mutiplayer trying to split the skills needed and letting one person loot. You both need lucky looter and to loot now. My suggestion is to not worry about books and read them for exp and dont' expect to actually make anything good mid tier or higher as chances are you won't need to do it as you'll find the loot or buy it from trader.

Lucky looter increase your lootstage, but doesn´t affect the chance or amount for magazines or something. Its only for the tier system of the dropped gear, Like instead of a stone axe lvl 2 it drops a fire axe lvl 4 with better lootstage.
And i am current at the lootstage for T1 high / T2 low grade gear in T5 pois grasland and can craft T3 mid grade (steelweapon/tools lvl 2-3), Nailpistol is lvl 4, assault rifle 2 (okay T2), and steel knuckles 3. If you know where you have to look you get more than enough magazines. But i´m at you, the system isn´t fine. You have now to skill for what you want to loot...

Ahhhh I knew Lucky Looter had to affect it somehow.
Welp here goes me never skilling it considering it makes crafting useless for me.

[nightshark]

Originally posted by Black Puppet:

Originally posted by subwaybananas:

Lucky looter increase your lootstage, but doesn´t affect the chance or amount for magazines or something. Its only for the tier system of the dropped gear, Like instead of a stone axe lvl 2 it drops a fire axe lvl 4 with better lootstage.
And i am current at the lootstage for T1 high / T2 low grade gear in T5 pois grasland and can craft T3 mid grade (steelweapon/tools lvl 2-3), Nailpistol is lvl 4, assault rifle 2 (okay T2), and steel knuckles 3. If you know where you have to look you get more than enough magazines. But i´m at you, the system isn´t fine. You have now to skill for what you want to loot...

Ahhhh I knew Lucky Looter had to affect it somehow.
Welp here goes me never skilling it considering it makes crafting useless for me.

The one thing the skills do NOT tell you is it benefits all 3 portions of the skill. Looting the item is a "hidden feature" in the skills to find the books. It boosts the chance to get the books the parts and item all but it doesn't tell you that part.