Are tier 5 buildings worth doing at all (quests)

[☠Dragnoros, der Wächter]

First my opinion.

If you look at the difficulty increase from IV to V. he is gigantic. Especially when it's the newer Tier V buildings.

Reward at the dealer... so you get the really good stuff at Tier 4 (quality 6 weapons, etc.). Is there anything better in Tier V?

I'm the only one who thinks that these buildings leave you with a minus if you do the do the buildings complete?

I actually only use the quests to reset the building in order to get to the easy end loot, since this is actually only worthwhile. Thank you Hospital and Shamway factory.. hehehe. (i think that this 2 buildings are the only worthy buildings, which you could do, if you want)

[Humpenstilzchen]

Here is a fun little story regarding T5 buildings.

I came back to A20 after a huge break. I stopped playing at A15 before so lots of changes for me to discover. Back then there were no quests and T5 buildings so when I first started A20 and when I was discovering this huge dishong tower on my first day I was amazed by it.

Note: I also didn´t know that the interior of buildings was now like dungeons with traps and ambushes ect

Sooo, I decided lets check this building out. On day one. With three lvl 1 blunderbusses and my trusty low level club. What could go wrong?

It was rough but amazing. I was really surprised how long it takes to clear this building but I took my time and proceeded room by room. At some point I discovered that the game now has falling traps. Broke my leg badly and had to rest inside in a corner of the elevator until it was healed up again. The vultures ambushes inside the building almost got me..almost..heavy wounded I had to rest for a long time again and I was infected. Luckily I found honey on my way so I could cure myself.

I didn´t give up though and I also didn´t die. Clubbed them all and had a great time.
Found lots of good stuff and leveled up so many levels it was amazing.

The top of the building was a surprise though. I didn´t expect so many zombies at the same time and also these weird green glowing zombies which btw look like ♥♥♥♥ were new to me as well.

Cheesed them by backracking into the building and spamming wood spikes in the doorways and paths and clubbed and shot the crap out of them. And won.

It took almost three ingame days to clear the building. I came out with a good pistol , a decent ak, a sawed of shotgun and a full inventory of ammo and stuff.

What an adventure! It was incredible to see how much the game has been improved in regards to buildings, although I think the devs overdid it and at times you feel like you walk through a guided zombie theme park with all those "intended" ways to clear POI´s with all those incredibly obvious ambush spots, which also enable you the cheese the heck out of it by just going your own way, but that is another topic.

So yea, you can do it early game but it´s a hell of a ride and well worth it if you don´t have anything yet but I can see how someone can easily shoot more ammo than he can find if he isn´t using melee much.

Even after this adventure I wasn´t aware that this is a supposed to be very challenging T5 building and part of quests. I just thought oh wow what an amazing building, lets check it out and so I did lol.

Long story short: You can do it even early game if you want. Just take your time.

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The loot isn't worth it except when you are above level 80 and start looting decent stuff. It's also hard to clear without automatic weapons (especially skyscraper_2) but when you learn the layout of each T5 POIs it gets way easier and is actually fun.

[comet_65cali]

I would say...no I steer clear of tier 5 missions from traders. The loot is not necessarily better and the rewards are hit and miss for completion. Dishong is pretty much an end-game raid for me.

That being said am I the only one that never gets the tier 5 apartment building/Shamway factory in RGW for A20? I've done like 15 RGW and none have those POIs.

[Maiznieks]

I had shamway at Jen's L5 quest.

[Crashtian]

Originally posted by burnouttx:

I use those tier 5 skyscraper buildings as horde night bases. Clear it out, set up for horde night, and if they trash the place, go get the quest and use it to reset the place instead of rebuilding. Then do what you want or need to do in between.

You can camp out in a t5 for a lot of horde nights just removing a couple sets of stairs. Takes months in game for them to bring some of them down entirely.

[Solitus]

Originally posted by Invader Zim:

The loot is useless once you get to a stage, unless you're selling it off but even then, how many dukes can one guy spend.

I wish we could make physical piles of dukes for a treasure vault; like the gold coin piles in Valheim. Sometimes you just want to be a dragon and sleep on your hoard.

[Crashtian]

Originally posted by Solitus:

Originally posted by Invader Zim:

The loot is useless once you get to a stage, unless you're selling it off but even then, how many dukes can one guy spend.

I wish we could make physical piles of dukes for a treasure vault; like the gold coin piles in Valheim. Sometimes you just want to be a dragon and sleep on your hoard.

Same, It gave gold in Valheim an aesthetic purpose after getting everything from the store, would love to see similar with dukes.

[Demios]

The only negative about T5 big buildings (tall ones that need to gen 1-2 extra chunk in the air specially) is lag, the rest is awesome, more loot/safes/weapon bags, the end loot is bigger and higher zombie tiers thus more exp for your fights. (Ho also those bigger buildings have loot multiplier so even low level with lucky looter and some actual luck, you can find some pretty good stuff in early-ish game, specially if you combine that with a harder biomes! (another loot multiplier)

[Nimbull]

I've gone through those buildings entirely. Also climbed up the side of the building using wooden ladders which really is fun cause I get that sense of not looking down when I'm crawling up a skyscraper in game. Now and then the drone shoves me off the ladder. *SPLAT*

[Ray Garraty]

Originally posted by william_es:

Tier 5 are worth it, but only if you sort of cheat. If it's a retrieval mission, then use a gyro to fly to the top, locate the satchel, and chop your way down into the building.

Are there Fetch Only Tier V quests in the game?
Because so far I've seen only Fetch + Clear

[Andi]

Originally posted by Ray Garraty:

Originally posted by william_es:

Tier 5 are worth it, but only if you sort of cheat. If it's a retrieval mission, then use a gyro to fly to the top, locate the satchel, and chop your way down into the building.

Are there Fetch Only Tier V quests in the game?
Because so far I've seen only Fetch + Clear

Fetch only have been patched out, because people just nerd poled to the right floor and took out the satchel. 🤣

[Ray Garraty]

Originally posted by ☠Dragnoros, der Wächter:

Are tier 5 buildings worth doing at all (quests)

Upon completion of a Tier V quests series you can get a 500 steel blocks prize, equivalent to 5000 or 10 stacks of steel.
It would take a tremendous amount of time to mine and smelt it traditional way, so yeah, it's definitely worth it

[william_es]

Originally posted by Ray Garraty:

Originally posted by william_es:

Tier 5 are worth it, but only if you sort of cheat. If it's a retrieval mission, then use a gyro to fly to the top, locate the satchel, and chop your way down into the building.

Are there Fetch Only Tier V quests in the game?
Because so far I've seen only Fetch + Clear

Even if it's a clear mission, sometimes those are easier to do sort of "backwards". You're breaking the funhouse planned assualt moments, where you're supposed to enter trough one door and get mobbed by enemies. Except you enter through the other and see zombies waiting for you (as opposed to them swarming you/dropping out of the ceiling, etc).

Plus you have the benefit of being able to _use_ the end dungeon loot to help you clear it. Especially if you found a good weapon or mod in the loot.

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by Ray Garraty:

Originally posted by ☠Dragnoros, der Wächter:

Are tier 5 buildings worth doing at all (quests)

Upon completion of a Tier V quests series you can get a 500 steel blocks prize, equivalent to 5000 or 10 stacks of steel.
It would take a tremendous amount of time to mine and smelt it traditional way, so yeah, it's definitely worth it

It's vastly more efficient to do that with tier 4 quests. You don't have to do tier 5 quests to complete the tier. You can do 7 T5 quests or 9 T4 quests, or 12 T3 quests. 9 T4 is the most time-efficient way to do it as long as you have a quick T4 near your trader. If you have a Zelex restaurant nearby you can complete the full tier in two 60-minute days.

[𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲]

Originally posted by ☠Dragnoros, der Wächter:

First my opinion.

If you look at the difficulty increase from IV to V. he is gigantic. Especially when it's the newer Tier V buildings.

Reward at the dealer... so you get the really good stuff at Tier 4 (quality 6 weapons, etc.). Is there anything better in Tier V?

I'm the only one who thinks that these buildings leave you with a minus if you do the do the buildings complete?

I actually only use the quests to reset the building in order to get to the easy end loot, since this is actually only worthwhile. Thank you Hospital and Shamway factory.. hehehe. (i think that this 2 buildings are the only worthy buildings, which you could do, if you want)

Only thing they're good for is speedrunning the POI reset on mission start and for the completion rewards. Otherwise, no, not worth at all. They take a long time to loot and often you already have better loot than the POI gives outside the loot crate area (unless doing the quest/trader rush strat). They're also not difficult outside of the final area unless you have a bow and arrow or a melee weapon.

The general quest rewards are also a joke, often getting worse items than zombie loot bag or something from a chest inside the poi, so re-running them is not ideal/wastes time.

EDIT: I see that apparently you dont even need to do tier 5 to complete chain. So no, not that part ig XD tier 4 is way faster.