Is single player worth it in the long run?

[Albi]

what keeps you entertained in single player?

[JimmyIowa]

Depends on what you mean by "long run", I guess. Most big name game titles these days have a playthrough time of about 40 to 80 hours of content. So going by that reference, 7dtd is probably right in line with that for playthrough length just for obtaining good weapons, armor, and vehicles - around day 40 to 80 (depending on playstyle and activity %).

If "long run" to you means past day 80 or so, then I think a lot of people just enjoy building large fancy structures with furnishings and electricity. Basically being the bling master of the apocalypse. You can see many screens of people's creations in the screenshot area.

Another thing that keeps me playing past day 80 is that horde nights keep getting harsher for quite some time after that (up to Gamestage 600 I think). Basically this means at day 80 when you have everything, the blood moons are still softball relative to your power level. If you like a combat challenge, set blood moon to every other day and keep increasing gamestage and getting tougher and tougher blood moons. Eventually they become 100% radiated cops and a dozen demos at a time if you use a high blood moon count. (Granted I sometimes feel like the only person in this entire community who actually like a combat challenge these days though.)

EDIT: It's also worth mentioning, that if you don't like any of the available options in the late game, like building pretty things or being combat guru, then maybe just don't force yourself to play a "long run" that you don't find interesting in the first place. Start a new game.

[Crashtian]

Originally posted by HammerdinPally:

what keeps you entertained in single player?

When I was playing, Challenge runs or hardcore versions. (I really enjoyed Classic Legacy, having limited lives gives 7dtd some of the tension it desperately needs.)

But super long term, If you really aren't into the current "end game" game play loop, it can definitely be a struggle to continue in that specific game. It is IMO one of the weakest parts about 7dtd.

Long term the game plays better as a Rogue like.

[MoistGamer]

set yourself up for "the final stand". That's what I do. To Jimmy's point you're always so OP at that point anyway, you still win said "final stand" but its fun. Use all 1,000,000 dukes you probably have, smelt it all or buy all the ammo in town. Once I have about 10,000 rounds I make a decision to turn off all traps in my horde base and face them with 6 fully loaded fully modded level 6 (insert your fav rambo gun) but mine is the MG. You just don't stop firing all horde night. The sun rises, you say "excellent". THen start a new game!

[DFalcon]

i try hardcore runs but its getting boring at day 30-35 every run... there is not much to do in singleplayer exept you try hardcore runs or restrict yourself from using the trader or certain skill sets

[hellatze]

Originally posted by HammerdinPally:

what keeps you entertained in single player?

you need mod to enjoy single player

[Alexander The Great]

Youre reading comments from people that oversaturated the game.

its like someone asks me if minecraft is fun, after years centuries of playing it, i'll say you'll get bored after a few ingame days.



This game is ONLY worth for single player, it has something called Point Of Interests,
TONS OF BUILDINGS that have minidungeons in them to traverse them.

You're gonna be legit looting a house for quite a while sometimes and it being so much fun since it has SO MUCH depth, its not your bland come in and out.

it has so much variation and grand generation system. its all you could imagine fallout + minecraft procedurally generated, could be.

plus once youre experienced in the already fun vanilla, get the mod True Survival that adds more micromanagement like nutrition and some fun complications that turns it into a more hardcore survival game more than it is.

its a steal for the price it is now, i'd pay triple.

[hellatze]

Originally posted by Alexander The Great:

Youre reading comments from people that oversaturated the game.

its like someone asks me if minecraft is fun, after years centuries of playing it, i'll say you'll get bored after a few ingame days.



This game is ONLY worth for single player, it has something called Point Of Interests,
TONS OF BUILDINGS that have minidungeons in them to traverse them.

You're gonna be legit looting a house for quite a while sometimes and it being so much fun since it has SO MUCH depth, its not your bland come in and out.

it has so much variation and grand generation system. its all you could imagine fallout + minecraft procedurally generated, could be.

plus once youre experienced in the already fun vanilla, get the mod True Survival that adds more micromanagement like nutrition and some fun complications that turns it into a more hardcore survival game more than it is.

its a steal for the price it is now, i'd pay triple.

with current optimization and less endgame goal. the discount is worth the price

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by HammerdinPally:

what keeps you entertained in single player?

ummm... everything? Physics, the zombie killing aspect, the building, the gameplay, the looting, the gathering, the traveling.
Also, singleplayer has many pros: no lags, no griefers, your own flow, and only your own PC to blame for anything.
I don't think multiplayer can be anyhow better. It is just different. But people do tend to give out "annoyed sighs" about how "who tf needs singleplayer in games, nowadays".

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by hellatze:

Originally posted by HammerdinPally:

what keeps you entertained in single player?

you need mod to enjoy single player

1.5k, and still enjoying the living hell out of vanilla.

[ucurius]

Originally posted by HammerdinPally:

what keeps you entertained in single player?

I play mostly MP, but Ilike SP too. In SP you are more free to do what you want and play your game, the way you want or to test / try builds / play styles you useally don't play in MP games.

SP is for me more relaxing, since I have to do all the farming/mining/grinding/crafting and can decide what I do with the Duckes, like smelting or buy from trader; for me I prefer not to smelt Duckes, but by the ressourse from trader/find it in game; I also buy augers/chain saws for their parts or whatever I need, to gain needed parts from.

The maps I create, I can play in SP till I lose interest or I explored them all.
At the moment, it is how I played for 1-2 years SP, had up to 5 maps in use, too.

[atom heart]

I've never played MP and unless I had a need to with people I knew, I doubt I would ever venture there. Single player has always kept me entertained, I play on Warrior as I cannot handle the higher levels, reflexes and nerve damage prevent those split second switches of weapons etc. This also keeps me away from MP as I don't think I would fit in.

You are independent in SP, you can play at your own pace and in any biome you like for as long as you like. The sense of isolation in a broken, dangerous world drives the SP story line adequately for my needs.

[SiEgE]

I can tell why I'm not playing multiplayer:
- Not enough friends with PCs strong enough to endure 7DTD.
- Not enough friends enjoying the kind of the game 7DTD is(they do enjoy it, but only for a fairly short period of time. They like the shooting aspect of the game, and are instantly losing interest once zombies are no longer a threat).
- Most open public servers are full of griefers/trolls/cheaters/people who ignore your existence. Interacting with any of them leaves you with an impression that MP cannot be liked by a humanly sane being.
- Searching for a worthy MP server is like looking for a rare unicorn. Yes, maybe they do exist, but you'll endure through lots of issues before you get there - laggy server, bad connection, server-side issues, bad administration, bad users, the whole headache of getting your hands on the IP address of the said server, modifications, making sure the server won't be down 1 week later.. Basically, by this point, your mildly enjoyable SP experience has an actual weight, compared to the ♥♥♥♥ you're getting through at MP.
It is literally easier to find people to play with, rather than to find an MP server that might be worthy of spending time at.
- Oh, and you cannot be banned or have all your progress stripped completely, because someone decided to setup you up into a situation you'll be "bannable" for.

[Khissi]

Single player is great, but, yes, after a time, you can get bored. For me, the first few weeks of the game are the most fun... edge of the seat, teeth clenching, crazy FUN! Once you've exhausted all the possibilities of game difficulty, run speeds changes, etc, then it's time to explore some of the wonderful mods out there. The 7 Days to Die Mod Launcher helps do that, though it can be a bit confusing at first. Just ask in the forums and someone will help if you run into an issue, but, other than that, the next alpha is always coming down the pipe. Once I've gotten to the point where I'm a bit bland about whichever mod I'm playing with at the time, I go play something else for a bit and/or invite friends to play with me, bite the bullet and invite my grandkids to play (and just understand that they ARE going to gank me at every opportunity, little rats) and PRESTO... new alpha comes and it's like having a brand new game that is still your best friend, but fun new things to explore, new POIs, new... stuff.

This game is not intended for a single play-through, you see. It's intended to be played over and over and over... so, if you're bored, start a new game, use a totally random map, change up the parameters, zombie speed, difficulty, stick a mod in... either a few interesting modlets or a complete makeover like Darkness Falls, and find what makes it fun for you.

[Archie]

Originally posted by Alexander The Great:

Youre reading comments from people that oversaturated the game.

its like someone asks me if minecraft is fun, after years centuries of playing it, i'll say you'll get bored after a few ingame days.



This game is ONLY worth for single player, it has something called Point Of Interests,
TONS OF BUILDINGS that have minidungeons in them to traverse them.

You're gonna be legit looting a house for quite a while sometimes and it being so much fun since it has SO MUCH depth, its not your bland come in and out.

it has so much variation and grand generation system. its all you could imagine fallout + minecraft procedurally generated, could be.

plus once youre experienced in the already fun vanilla, get the mod True Survival that adds more micromanagement like nutrition and some fun complications that turns it into a more hardcore survival game more than it is.

its a steal for the price it is now, i'd pay triple.

This

People spend 5000 hours on the game, then when they finally get burned out, they say things like "it'll get boring" or "you need mods for singleplayer"

Yeah, no ♥♥♥♥, every game will burn you out eventually.

But i'd say, in the current state of things, i'd say this game is more than a complete game. Until you loot every single POI, map every single place on the map, and survive countless Blood Moons until you finally cave in, you'll probably be spending a *long* time playing. Just make sure you play this game on and off - imo survival sandbox games were never meant to be played constantly, but to be played every now and then along with other games. That is, unless you intend to build something grandiose that requires lots of time, effort and creativity.

The only downside i can give you about playing this game singleplayer is that it is a very lonely experience, as currently the game doesn't have any other survivor NPCs other than the Trader (which never leaves his post), so you'll be journeying completely alone. But if loneliness doesn't really bother you, then by all means i higly recommend the solo experience for this game ;)

[JimmyIowa]

Originally posted by Kokomi Main:

People spend 5000 hours on the game, then when they finally get burned out, they say things like "it'll get boring" or "you need mods for singleplayer"

Yeah, that was my point with the playthrough time of other games. Many games have 80 to 120 hours of content. Yet some people insist on playing 7dtd for 1000+ hours then saying "There's nothing to do". Facepalm.