The End of Custom Blood Moon Bases ??

[Dester]

Recently while playing the game I noticed your loot level sometimes changes based on the building you're standing inside or on top. The player loot level can change from 23 to 35 simply due to the type of building you're visiting. This happened all within the same biome.
I'm sure it's even more drastic for later game stages.

My concern is why build a custom blood moon base on a street or away from the city when the loot bags are SIGNIFICANTLY better simply by modifying an existing tier 4 or tier 5 building?? I've personally enjoyed building a blood moon base from scratch, but now that only seems possible after using LOTS of dynamite on a tier 4 or tier 5 building and hoping the high loot bonus remains.

What's your thoughts?

[pApA^LeGBa]

That you force that end of custom blood moon bases on to yourself with your greed.

You like building them? Then do it. Loot is more important? Then remodel a POI.

[Rio]

I suppose the best loot then will be find a tier 5 poi in the wasteland, like a factory and remove the stairs up. Bam, bloodmoon base

I already mostly gave up making custom bloodmoon bases anyway. Ain't got the time since I'm always on the questing loop. It ain't like the old days where there were no quests and you just had exploring or base building.


Sometimes I think Traders should have one day a week they are closed, so players have an off day to focus on base building.

[Michael]

I think you're severely overestimating how much the loot level actually matters. To me, it's not even a factor. If your items permanently degraded and eventually broke then it might matter more, but they don't. You'll never need to replace your purple m60, you only need to find it once. Getting one with slightly better stats only makes a small difference in its overall ability to kill zombies.

[Michael]

引用自 Dark：

I suppose the best loot then will be find a tier 5 poi in the wasteland, like a factory and remove the stairs up. Bam, bloodmoon base

I already mostly gave up making custom bloodmoon bases anyway. Ain't got the time since I'm always on the questing loop. It ain't like the old days where there were no quests and you just had exploring or base building.


Sometimes I think Traders should have one day a week they are closed, so players have an off day to focus on base building.

You know you don't *have* to quest every day, right? That is completely optional.

[IRuleAll]

i literally just built on top of a PoI and did my normal BM stlye base, but this time its on a roof of an existing building, and i built a ramp to let them come up. worked just how i hoped it would, they came right up the ramp and into my BM base. all while getting the loot of a t4 PoI and they didnt mess around inside the PoI or get stuck or anything like that. worked exactly how it would if i built it out in the wilderness

[Solomon]

引用自 IRuleAll：

i literally just built on top of a PoI and did my normal BM stlye base, but this time its on a roof of an existing building, and i built a ramp to let them come up. worked just how i hoped it would, they came right up the ramp and into my BM base. all while getting the loot of a t4 PoI and they didnt mess around inside the PoI or get stuck or anything like that. worked exactly how it would if i built it out in the wilderness

What kind of base design did you use?

[admos]

Not sure why this is a problem, you could either build in it or not..
So you either take advantage of the T5 POI bonus or not.

You don't need to use dynamite, you could always just use CM to destroy the blocks, it's your game, do what you want.. If it's not fun for you this way then don't do it. Simple.

[IRuleAll]

引用自 Solomon：

引用自 IRuleAll：

i literally just built on top of a PoI and did my normal BM stlye base, but this time its on a roof of an existing building, and i built a ramp to let them come up. worked just how i hoped it would, they came right up the ramp and into my BM base. all while getting the loot of a t4 PoI and they didnt mess around inside the PoI or get stuck or anything like that. worked exactly how it would if i built it out in the wilderness

What kind of base design did you use?

a tunnel lined with electric fences, and then i sit on the other side and use my shotgun, pipebombs or molotov. i sent a friend invite so i could just send you a picture of it since they dont let us post SS on this forum for whatever reason

[Dragorin]

引用自 IRuleAll：

since they dont let us post SS on this forum for whatever reason

Like totally, it sure would be nice if steam would let us post screen shots..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2700271265

oh wait..

[JimmyIowa]

引用自 IRuleAll：

i sent a friend invite so i could just send you a picture of it since they dont let us post SS on this forum for whatever reason

Look up top at the tabs...

"All Discusssion Screenshots Artwork........"

Okay now go to the screenshots tab. Guess what you can post there and link to. I'll leave the rest up to your keen senses of observation and intuition.

[Dester]

引用自 admos：

Not sure why this is a problem, you could either build in it or not..
So you either take advantage of the T5 POI bonus or not.

You don't need to use dynamite, you could always just use CM to destroy the blocks, it's your game, do what you want.. If it's not fun for you this way then don't do it. Simple.

It's a problem because in multiplayer games you don't want to be behind everyone else. In a multiplayer map using CM is cheating and not allowed. In multiplayer game you want to find the level 5 or level 6 weapons, tools, armor, etc., etc., as soon as possible.
In a multiplayer game it's unwise to collect 30 loot bags when your loot level is 23 when you could be collecting those loot bags at level 35.

Thus it's not simple.

[Dester]

引用自 IRuleAll：

i literally just built on top of a PoI and did my normal BM stlye base, but this time its on a roof of an existing building, and i built a ramp to let them come up. worked just how i hoped it would, they came right up the ramp and into my BM base. all while getting the loot of a t4 PoI and they didnt mess around inside the PoI or get stuck or anything like that. worked exactly how it would if i built it out in the wilderness

Yes this appears to be the best option... it's just being chained to using POIs for our blood moon bases if we want to more quickly capture the better armor, weapons, tools, etc., . Hopefully we have an option in the future where adding sinks, pipes, furniture, lights, etc., etc., will naturally increase our personal blood moon base outside the city... within reason of course so it's not abused.

[pApA^LeGBa]

引用自 Dester：

引用自 admos：

Not sure why this is a problem, you could either build in it or not..
So you either take advantage of the T5 POI bonus or not.

You don't need to use dynamite, you could always just use CM to destroy the blocks, it's your game, do what you want.. If it's not fun for you this way then don't do it. Simple.

It's a problem because in multiplayer games you don't want to be behind everyone else. In a multiplayer map using CM is cheating and not allowed. In multiplayer game you want to find the level 5 or level 6 weapons, tools, armor, etc., etc., as soon as possible.
In a multiplayer game it's unwise to collect 30 loot bags when your loot level is 23 when you could be collecting those loot bags at level 35.

Thus it's not simple.

Then it´s not even a question. Loot is more importnant to you than the horde base. I wouldn´t change my playstyle of building the hordebase from scratch for loot, but that´s personal preference.

I don´t miss out on anything so far, having a lower lootstage during hordenight. You could also build it in the snow or wasteland to get a selfbuilt hordebase and more lootstage.

[Brian9824]

Loot stage is tied to BIOME, not POI, so just build your base in that biome and your set.

[Solomon]

引用自 brian9824：

Loot stage is tied to BIOME, not POI, so just build your base in that biome and your set.

It's tied to both actually