Thirst and beer

[GamaYouNow]

I want to drink, but there is only beer, so why does beer not have thirst restoration, at least a little - 5 units. Beer is now like a drug, it gives bonuses, but does not restore the thirst scale

[Seftak]

Originally posted by Amins:

Originally posted by -=O=-^FightinCock:

having to stop and take a wezzzz... after a few beers... could be a fun added difficulty.
lol.
I guess peeing in a jar to save for later could be a thing too.... lmao...

Didn't you used to be able to collect poop in earlier versions to use for farming plots, too?

Yes. But not yours like in Ark.

[Apocaleptic]

this is stupid. its why you pound water b4 you sleep to avoid a hangover. beer does NOT give water. anyone who thinks it does is under aged or anti social.

[[-=O=-]^FightinCock]

lol... now we do have diarrhea in the game... maybe getting it and you have to change your pants... lol.

Although it seems to be quite mild case of the runs.
Maybe add levels from mild... to chronic... even more dehydrated and you need to go lay down for a while. ...and change you pants. lol

sorry ot...

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by Apocaleptic:

this is stupid. its why you pound water b4 you sleep to avoid a hangover. beer does NOT give water. anyone who thinks it does is under aged or anti social.

Cute that you would try to use this to position yourself as the cool guy of the group who's had a beer before but studies indicate that beer can be a good source of hydration and that its diuretic effects will not outweigh the hydration it provides, with exception given to beers with higher alcohol content.

[Amins]

It's not even like it's a difficult concept to understand. Beer has water. Water hydrates. Beer has alcohol. Alcohol dehydrates. Higher alcohol content equals higher dehydration. It's a balance, and more often, it's at least a slight net positive, at least temporarily.

Now the kind of beer that gets an average person drunk from one jar? What would that provide?

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by Amins:

It's not even like it's a difficult concept to understand. Beer has water. Water hydrates. Beer has alcohol. Alcohol dehydrates. Higher alcohol content equals higher dehydration. It's a balance, and more often, it's at least a slight net positive, at least temporarily.

Now the kind of beer that gets an average person drunk from one jar? What would that provide?

I don't have the expertise to say, but if anything there would be a short-term improvement in hydration with a decrease afterwards.

But to be honest I'm not really aware of any beers that make you a fighting machine for 45 seconds and then you go back to normal like you'd never drank anything. This could be some pretty special beer.

[Seftak]

Originally posted by Amins:

It's not even like it's a difficult concept to understand. Beer has water. Water hydrates. Beer has alcohol. Alcohol dehydrates. Higher alcohol content equals higher dehydration. It's a balance, and more often, it's at least a slight net positive, at least temporarily.

Now the kind of beer that gets an average person drunk from one jar? What would that provide?

WATER does not hydrates, the minerals and nutrients in it does....

That's why you should not drink distilled or sea water, because one lack nutrients and the other "contains too much".

The body need liquid to function but mosty THE CONTENT of said liquid. The liquid is used to "lube up" your organs and the nutrients in it to give them the energy they need to work.

When you drink something containing poison, like alcohol and salt, you body needs to work harder to eliminate them and use more nutrients to filter that out. So yes your body will hydrate from the water content of a beer but a beer lacks the required nutrients normal water provides.

So yes, you will feel hydated for a moment from drinking a beer but soon after you body will require more normal water to function better because you just fed it poisoned water...

[Segovax]

Water does hydrate because that's literally what hydrate means as a verb. A chemical hydrate is something different and not what people use the word as when we talk about "getting hydrated." It means drinking water.

Spring water is much better for you because it has trace elements our bodies need for various biological functions. Distilled water is still worth drinking if you don't have access to spring water and need a safe water source.

When people refer to drinking beer in a historical context as a safer alternative to water, that's largely a myth because to be blunt, people didn't have the sense to understand that beer was a safer alternative to water. In fact, understanding of disease vectors wasn't even a thing until the 19th century, and some backwater village in the black forest in the 12th century wasn't exactly a place you would find people well versed in germ theory either. While there was a lower ABV content beer available back when, it was generally for children. The reality is, people drank bad water all the time, got sick from it all the time, and died from it all the time. Generally if you survived past 25 you were of a hardier constitution.

Dehydration effects of drinking beer is complicated. Beer contains alcohol, which blocks antidiuretic hormone, which makes you urinate more. How much more you're going to urinate depends on the alcohol by volume, how much you've consumed and the varying body chemistry between us all. On top of that, however, you're also dealing with the additional effects of alcohol in your system which include GI inflammation and neurological effects beyond ADH suppression, which can also have negative overall health aspects.

So while you might be technically right, you'd be more right by asking why beer doesn't provide food satiation since each one tends to have between 100-200 calories. IMO the answer is the same reason you can put a truck in your pocket, it's because the game mechanics work fairly well the way they have been implemented.

If it really bothers you, you can always edit the xml.

[Segovax]

Originally posted by ElDudorino:

Originally posted by Amins:

It's not even like it's a difficult concept to understand. Beer has water. Water hydrates. Beer has alcohol. Alcohol dehydrates. Higher alcohol content equals higher dehydration. It's a balance, and more often, it's at least a slight net positive, at least temporarily.

Now the kind of beer that gets an average person drunk from one jar? What would that provide?

I don't have the expertise to say, but if anything there would be a short-term improvement in hydration with a decrease afterwards.

But to be honest I'm not really aware of any beers that make you a fighting machine for 45 seconds and then you go back to normal like you'd never drank anything. This could be some pretty special beer.

I would suggest Arrogant Bastard Ale by Stone Brewery. Whenever I go out bare knuckle boxing with the undead, I always pound a couple of those first.

[Crashtian]

"it dehydrates you"

No. It's a Diuretic. It makes you pee, but you replace more water than you lose drinking it.

[angelsdavid1989]

Yukka juice is even better than plain water. I grow Yukka plants and just cook up tons of bottles of that and have it on hand :)

[Oneblock]

A 2016 study showed no significant dehydration associated with water, beer and non-alcoholic beer consumed before sports. It did show a reduction of potassium for alcoholic beers and an increase in electrolytes in non-alcoholic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924186/

[₵ⱤɄ₵ł₣łł]

Some guy found a old monk brew called bread loaf mead he made a bunch and lived on only beer for a year.......as it was said it is only a diuretic to a point there is more water in it than you lose... but beer make me pee like mad

[Seftak]

Originally posted by !C4ught/M3^withMYN4D30ut:

Some guy found a old monk brew called bread loaf mead he made a bunch and lived on only beer for a year.......as it was said it is only a diuretic to a point there is more water in it than you lose... but beer make me pee like mad :essenceofdeath:

A guy also ate a plane, and some eat rocks and sofa and chalk and drywall. Does not mean it is recommended.

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by Seftak:

Originally posted by !C4ught/M3^withMYN4D30ut:

Some guy found a old monk brew called bread loaf mead he made a bunch and lived on only beer for a year.......as it was said it is only a diuretic to a point there is more water in it than you lose... but beer make me pee like mad :essenceofdeath:

A guy also ate a plane, and some eat rocks and sofa and chalk and drywall. Does not mean it is recommended.

OK listen, this is the apocalypse. It's kind of an exceptional case. Sometimes you need to eat a sofa.