How fast can you get transportation options?

[Raptor]

I know this depends on the loot RNG but one of my least favorite parts of this game is the serious drag after you establish your initial base and loot the nearby areas and then need to start traveling farther. For me it's usually after the first day 7 when I'm making longer trips to towns and other big POI's, but I dread the forever walking and hauling load after load of crap back to my main base.

I think I should work on transportation faster but then you're stuck with trying to find random schematics and parts, aren't you? I don't use the traders as much as I should, maybe that's my problem. Any tips?

Lately I've resorted to using the debug menu and turning on noclip/fly mode to just hurry the boring traveling along as I don't have all day to slowly walk across the map lol.

[ShadedMJ]

I suggest looking into the teleport command in console. Find your XYZ coordinate, write that down, loot, debug menu, tp to that coordinate, and poof you are back at base. My tier 5 quests are 5km away, so I got good at teleporting to height+250 above the target, quest, and teleporting back to base.

[aY227]

Motorcycle is day3-4 for me crafted or bought.
If you are using debugmode than just ctrl-right click on map to teleport ;p

[Vintorez]

Completing the first batch of quests to unlock Tier 2 quests always gives a bicycle as a reward option, so that helps a lot. You can also use the world generator to make smaller maps with more towns. Not really missing a whole lot with less wilderness aside from travel time.

And since every town has a trader, you're more likely to get a full vehicle by having more to check in your vicinity.

[william_es]

You can get a bicycle from doing trader quests. Just complete enough quests to finish the tier 1 quests, and a bicycle will be one of the rewards offered.

Depending on your luck with loot, you can build a minibike or motorcycle fairly quickly in the game now. The biggest thing holding you back would be unlocking the attribute levels and perks to craft it.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by aY227:

Motorcycle is day3-4 for me crafted or bought.
If you are using debugmode than just ctrl-right click on map to teleport ;p

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I did not know that teleport shortcut lol thank you based survivor.

And yeah I don't use the trader as much as I should. I've been playing for a long time on and off, think I started in Alpha 15 when the trader wasn't even in the game yet or maybe was but not as much of a thing iirc? So I got used to the game just being a sole survivor type of experience and tend to play that way, ignoring the trader.

The only thing I can't find or craft yet are tires which seem ridiculously rare in this current version. I could always just snag some from the creative menu but MUH IMMERSION lol. The perks are also kind of a pain as if you want to build a bike early, you have to spec towards that on purpose which forces you to spend those perk points.

Thanks for the replies all.

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by aY227:

Motorcycle is day3-4 for me crafted or bought.
If you are using debugmode than just ctrl-right click on map to teleport ;p

Wow, just curious how you accomplish that? I can certainly imagine a bicycle in the first 2-3 days, but don't think I could possibly get the acid, steel, etc to craft or the dukes required to buy a motorcycle inside of the first week. I'm not saying it can't be done, just wondering HOW!

[Tech Enthusiast]

Yeah Motorcycle on day 3 or 4 must be some serious luck or cheating / very easy settings like endless days or whatever.
Acid alone can take longer, let alone all the steel. And the invested skill points would cripple you this early as well.

not buying it to be honest. ;-)

[aY227]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Originally posted by aY227:

Motorcycle is day3-4 for me crafted or bought.
If you are using debugmode than just ctrl-right click on map to teleport ;p

Wow, just curious how you accomplish that? I can certainly imagine a bicycle in the first 2-3 days, but don't think I could possibly get the acid, steel, etc to craft or the dukes required to buy a motorcycle inside of the first week. I'm not saying it can't be done, just wondering HOW!

Not really a huge achievement tbh, on reddit I saw a guy with full set forge/workbench/chem station/motorcycle at the end of day3 on damn Insane diff.

For motorcycle I prefer to buy it at day4, acquiring 30k (25,5k with lvl3 better barter) dukes is not a problem to this day - but it's pure RNG if trader will have it or not. Daring Adventurer + Better Barter combo is really powerful.
Crafting is faster especially on RWG map (Nevezgane suxx), but I really don't like putting points in Grease Monkey because it's basically a forced respec later on.

Except common resources you need 35 steel and 2 acid for a motorcycle. (with perks)
Acid is pure RNG but Jen helps a lot.
Stell is more common than most peoples think - this is for Nev - https://imgur.com/a/Fx0disN
Way easier on RWG maps.

Originally posted by Tech Enthusiast:

not buying it to be honest. ;-)

Not my problem tbh

[tritscwa]

Originally posted by Tech Enthusiast:

Yeah Motorcycle on day 3 or 4 must be some serious luck or cheating / very easy settings like endless days or whatever.
Acid alone can take longer, let alone all the steel. And the invested skill points would cripple you this early as well.

not buying it to be honest. ;-)

I could see it being done if someone went right for that and nothing else. First week hordes aren't that tough so even a fairly simple base design that you can build with 0 skill can manage it and that's really the only thing holding you back from dedicating your all to the skills needed to get the crafting completed. So the only thing left from there would get to get the necessary stations and ingredients, which again I could see you pulling off if you knew exactly what you're doing and dedicated yourself entirely to it with just a bit of luck (steel for instance you can get all around a city from various object disassembly and getting a crappy wrench isn't that hard).

I wouldn't recommend this approach as honestly 1st week a motorcycle is unneeded and thus a waste of your time which would be better served doing other things. Earliest I could recommend you looking into a motorcycle is week 2 as by then you'll be getting into some higher tier quests which may be quite distant, and you'll want both the travel speed and storage for these.

As to the original question, the answers so far are correct. Completing the first set of tier 1 quests will get you a guaranteed bicycle option from the trader for the tier 2 unlock reward. You can also use debug mode teleportation as already noted. That said, managing your travel time is part of the game, so I'd not go overboard with teleportation. If you're going to use it, I'd say give yourself some rule on it that is fairly restrictive so you're not completely gutting the game's travel (I usually set the rule I can teleport between traders I have discovered, but that's it. I must travel to the trader to teleport, and only teleport to other discovered traders.) Now, by contrast if you want to make life hard on yourself, disallow the trader and intelligence tree as your 1st tree and early transport becomes WAY harder to acquire.

[Trooper Bri]

If you're telecheating, why not just spawn in vehicles and finish the job? Ain't got all day to ride around....

[Raptor]

Originally posted by tritscwa:

That said, managing your travel time is part of the game, so I'd not go overboard with teleportation. If you're going to use it, I'd say give yourself some rule on it that is fairly restrictive so you're not completely gutting the game's travel

Yeah I try and treat it like Skyrim fast-travel where I'll travel and then advance the time to roughly match my traveling and eat/drink something. I understand that traveling and the time it takes may be an intended part of the game, but even as a player who puts immersion and the game experience first, it's not only insanely boring and tedious but time-wasting as well. Even if I wanted to, sometimes I literally don't have the time to waste holding W for thirty minutes hauling crap back and forth. I don't think any game designer should expect players to want to do that. It is in no way interesting or challenging, especially if you're playing Navezgane that everyone has explored a thousand times.

Originally posted by tritscwa:

Now, by contrast if you want to make life hard on yourself, disallow the trader and intelligence tree as your 1st tree and early transport becomes WAY harder to acquire.

This is what I kind of unintentionally did by neglecting the trader after the first mission. I spec'd into mechanics to craft the bicycle, but no tires anywhere after looting 5 different POI's including a town. I'll have to craft or cheat the tires.

[FT]

If you're using the trader, their quests reset/rebuild the POI so you don't need to worry about moving out farther for loot when the traderquests refill the nearby buildings.
In this case, build your base near the trader and profit.

If you're not using the trader, then build where there's a lot of lootable POIs and drop chests on the road between POIs so you can unload and move around faster.
If you're not too much of a packrat you can also move your important stuff and benches to a new location when you've emptied out your current area..so you have your important stuff re-centralized for your new group of POIs to loot.
Steroids will let you run fast while your inventory is overfilled..so those can help a lot if you're running around.

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by aY227:

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Wow, just curious how you accomplish that? I can certainly imagine a bicycle in the first 2-3 days, but don't think I could possibly get the acid, steel, etc to craft or the dukes required to buy a motorcycle inside of the first week. I'm not saying it can't be done, just wondering HOW!

Not really a huge achievement tbh, on reddit I saw a guy with full set forge/workbench/chem station/motorcycle at the end of day3 on damn Insane diff.

For motorcycle I prefer to buy it at day4, acquiring 30k (25,5k with lvl3 better barter) dukes is not a problem to this day - but it's pure RNG if trader will have it or not. Daring Adventurer + Better Barter combo is really powerful.
Crafting is faster especially on RWG map (Nevezgane suxx), but I really don't like putting points in Grease Monkey because it's basically a forced respec later on.

Except common resources you need 35 steel and 2 acid for a motorcycle. (with perks)
Acid is pure RNG but Jen helps a lot.
Stell is more common than most peoples think - this is for Nev - https://imgur.com/a/Fx0disN
Way easier on RWG maps.

Fair enough, If you're able to do it consistently, cool! I still don't see it as something that I personally would be able to pull off, at least not without an insane amount of luck. I never put points in grease monkey and am lucky if I can complete 3 trader missions per day, but then I always clear the poi (I'm assuming you rush fetch jobs without stopping to loot?)

[aY227]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

(I'm assuming you rush fetch jobs without stopping to loot?)

Im rushing all of them, stopping only for loot room, but not always.
You can do more than 5 missions per day by re entering game, if quest pool is not full it will be restored.

[Rampant Razza]

motorcycle is possible in a few days, but you need an element of luck (steel/wrench/wheels/acid) and you need to gimp your points into grease monkey