Mining slower = More yield? Quality 3 Stone axe vs. Quality 1 Iron Pickaxe.

[Accel Lex]

I recently crafted a Q1 iron pickaxe, and my Q3 stone axe seems to gather more but slower. Not sure if it's because it's a higher quality, or if the iron tool just doesn't yield as much, but it does destroy the rock faster.
I used Heavy attack and out of 600 HP the stone went to about 300ish or 245ish. Yielded 5 Nitrate powder or whatever. Stone destroyed the rest of it much slower but yielded a lot more.
I'm thinking mabye I just miscalculated but wanted clarification just in case if I'm destroying potential yields.

[Shame on you]

No idea how it is now, but 2 Years ago this was the case.
Not that Sand, Ore, Stone or wood would be scarce

[Accel Lex]

I tried recreating this again and my power attack didn't knock out the ore to 300 in one power move so not sure what I did to only get 5. But it still feels like the slower mining is more plentiful.

I've heard that the resources don't respawn so even though I just started, I'm concerned about endgame having no more mats. Tho trader has some so mabye I'll just buy their stock.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Publicado originalmente por Accel Lex:

I'm concerned about endgame having no more mats.

Don´t worry, this won´t happen. There are way more resources than you could ever need.

[Shame on you]

YOu will need several years to run out of any ressource, except cars.
And for cars there are 2 ways
* Reset a region
* Use a respawn mod
https://7daystodiemods.com/car-respawner/

[aY227]

You miscalculated.
And it's generally not possible to run out of resources.

[Shame on you]

Publicado originalmente por aY227:

You miscalculated.
And it's generally not possible to run out of resources.

4x4km are arround 960 000 000 Blocks Rock, sand, ore,...
/8 player = 120 000 000
with a modded auger (and i mean modlet modded) you can break 3 Blocks per second
40 000 000 Seconds
666 666 Minutes
11 111 Hours
And if these people p̶l̶a̶y̶ work 8 hours per day thats 1.388 Days

[MiSFiT77]

Unsure about the yield. But I do wonder about the stamina effect between Iron and stone tools. If I mine with an iron pick I get through a single block in a few chops. If I use stone it takes more chops. But. I run out of stamina with the iron pick and need to rest (or drink numerous cups of coffee - which still requires me to stop briefly). Yet with the stone axe I never run out of stamina and can mine all night. So which is best overall ?

[Shame on you]

Just test it
Dig 100 meter (x2 Blocks) with each tool.
Then compare the time and yield

[Humpenstilzchen]

Publicado originalmente por MiSFiT77:

But. I run out of stamina with the iron pick and need to rest (or drink numerous cups of coffee - which still requires me to stop briefly). Yet with the stone axe I never run out of stamina and can mine all night. So which is best overall ?

Have you put points into sexual tyrannosaur? If not I highly recommend it.

[Ramar]

Publicado originalmente por MiSFiT77:

Unsure about the yield. But I do wonder about the stamina effect between Iron and stone tools. If I mine with an iron pick I get through a single block in a few chops. If I use stone it takes more chops. But. I run out of stamina with the iron pick and need to rest (or drink numerous cups of coffee - which still requires me to stop briefly). Yet with the stone axe I never run out of stamina and can mine all night. So which is best overall ?

This is why I prefer the stone axe to all others. (except the Auger) I know that it isn't the fastest, but it uses so little stamina and the fact that repair is almost instant with nothing more than a small stone.

Anything else, other than the auger, and I'm like you....running out of stamina and having to wait. But I never slow down with the stone axe.

[KellyR]

Publicado originalmente por Ramar:

Publicado originalmente por MiSFiT77:

Unsure about the yield. But I do wonder about the stamina effect between Iron and stone tools. If I mine with an iron pick I get through a single block in a few chops. If I use stone it takes more chops. But. I run out of stamina with the iron pick and need to rest (or drink numerous cups of coffee - which still requires me to stop briefly). Yet with the stone axe I never run out of stamina and can mine all night. So which is best overall ?

This is why I prefer the stone axe to all others. (except the Auger) I know that it isn't the fastest, but it uses so little stamina and the fact that repair is almost instant with nothing more than a small stone.

Anything else, other than the auger, and I'm like you....running out of stamina and having to wait. But I never slow down with the stone axe.

Once you've maxed out Sexual Tyrannosaurus you can use even steel tools without ever having to take a break, as long as your food/drink meters are kept high enough to give you the stamina recovery buff.

[castitatis]

Sadly, unless you run a strength build, you're better off skipping iron and steel tools. They REALLY require you having sexual tyronosaurus to be functional nowadays.

Stone tools is suposed to decrease the amount of resources you gather while steel tools are suposed to increase yield, with iron tools being the default value. That is over a full resource node of course.
At least it was that way last time I checked in alpha 17~

[Accel Lex]

Thank you again for the clarification. I am running a strength build since I like pack mule, bats, stamina reduction, etc.
I'm one of those people that likes to hoard equipment in case I never need it, and often run with plenty of gear just in case.

I run single player/ with friends so I'm not hoarding from other players like that.

[Accel Lex]

Publicado originalmente por Nameless:

YOu will need several years to run out of any ressource, except cars.
And for cars there are 2 ways
* Reset a region
* Use a respawn mod
https://7daystodiemods.com/car-respawner/

"Reset a region", would I lose all my progress if I do this?

[Daynen Drakeson]

Iron tools are a reasonable upgrade, assuming you can either find good quality or invest in crafting them; steel tools require so much more stamina they probably slow you down more than they help, as well as leaving you without stamina in the event you're attacked while working. I almost think steel tools could use a very slight buff in some way but no idea in which direction.

The biggest advantage of the stone axe isn't its efficiency though; it's the fact that it serves multiple tool functions with a single item. It's an axe, a pick, a shovel, a club and a hammer all in one, though obviously less effective than any of the above. This keeps your hotbar free for first aid, multiple weapons, building blocks or whatever you need at the time. It's versatile, but if you can't take full advantage of all its functions, then better tools are worth it.