Sleeping at night time

[No Exit]

If there's one thing I hate about this game it's waiting around at night time, usually huddled in your base. Usually at the start of the game where you can't work through the night on anything.

Can't there just be a system implemented where the player can actually sleep and speed up time? I know how the noise system works, but if you aren't making any noise, it's unlikely the zombies are going to find you. If they do, the game should wake you up. Crazy idea, I know... but if a zombie gets in proximity of you and bangs a door you shouldn't be able to sleep.

Sorry, I've just gone by many an in-game night while not making any noise just so the zombies leave me alone and it's boring just waiting around.

[JimmyIowa]

Originally posted by Neo-Rio:

Can't there just be a system implemented where the player can actually sleep and speed up time?

Speeding up time doesn't work in multiplayer (unless somehow all players were forced to sleep at the same time.)

Originally posted by Neo-Rio:

I know how the noise system works, but if you aren't making any noise, it's unlikely the zombies are going to find you.

Wandering hordes spawn at night and run in your general vicinity. Regardless of noise. Even if they don't find you personally they will destroy your base while you sleep.

[Shurenai]

This is not a feature that is likely to ever make it into the vanilla game.

One of the biggest points in 7DTD is Time Management; Using your time wisely so that your eventual horde night is tackleable instead of overwhelming.

Sitting around for 6-8 ingame hours is not good time management. Yes, Even in the early days, Yes, Even day 1, night 1. There is always something you could be doing, but are choosing not to.

You could be mining; Keep a close ear out and you can mine all night long. Yeah, you won't get much with a stone axe, but it's a lot more material and exp than you would get from just sitting there.

You could be building, Placing and upgrading frames doesn't really make sound.

You could be planning. You could be crafting. You could be carefully exploring in stealth. You could be doing a lot of things.


Your day time should not really be used for doing anything that could be done at night instead; In fact, your day should be used to plan for your night.. Since you're the kind who is likely scared of going out at night, then you should be planning ahead of time by chopping a lot of trees to get frames, Or looting for parts for a forge and pickaxe, and then mining up a bunch of iron so that you can get a pickaxe up ASAP; Or any number of other things.

But you shouldn't just be sitting around. If you're sitting around doing nothing, You either chose to do so, Or you failed to set yourself up for the night using your day.

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

Actually it would be cool to add some sleeping mini-game for SP.

My idea would be something like this:

• You start sleeping by choosing the appropriate action from you bed/bedroll
• The game will transition to a "night sleep" event screen
• The game will evaluate the blocks around you and some other "factors" to check each passing hour if something happens
• If you've bad luck and/or bad defenses around you, the game will play the wake-up animation (the one played when you start a new game) and you may end up surrounded by a few zombies!
• If you pass each check all night long then the sleep event screen fades out and the game will play the wake-up animation at 4/6 o'clock and the "new morning sound" will play. Well done!

[Salt Strider]

Originally posted by Neo-Rio:

If there's one thing I hate about this game it's waiting around at night time, usually huddled in your base. Usually at the start of the game where you can't work through the night on anything.

Can't there just be a system implemented where the player can actually sleep and speed up time? I know how the noise system works, but if you aren't making any noise, it's unlikely the zombies are going to find you. If they do, the game should wake you up. Crazy idea, I know... but if a zombie gets in proximity of you and bangs a door you shouldn't be able to sleep.

Sorry, I've just gone by many an in-game night while not making any noise just so the zombies leave me alone and it's boring just waiting around.

With all due respect,r I don't understand why some players hate not being able to sleep at night. Why not venture out at night? Is the challenge too difficult? All that time sleeping could be spent gathering and preparing. It is detrimental to the game's purpose and the player's ability to be properly armed, stored, and defended. Personally, I love the thrill and the jump scares. I've got over 1100 hours so far in this game and at the point that I'm at with experience, I can take this game on with melee weapons, enemies set to RUN in the daytime, SPRINT at night, and NIGHTMARE for ferals (applies to day and night) and I can still survive with a spear, sledge, blunderbuss and bow with these settings. Sorry, but there's literally zero excuse as to why you need to "wait around" at night. Just pure laziness and lack of imagination and the hunger for a good thrill. Maybe this type of game isn't for you? Or maybe you just need a nice kick in the bum?

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by ThirdGen:

Originally posted by Neo-Rio:

If there's one thing I hate about this game it's waiting around at night time, usually huddled in your base. Usually at the start of the game where you can't work through the night on anything.

Can't there just be a system implemented where the player can actually sleep and speed up time? I know how the noise system works, but if you aren't making any noise, it's unlikely the zombies are going to find you. If they do, the game should wake you up. Crazy idea, I know... but if a zombie gets in proximity of you and bangs a door you shouldn't be able to sleep.

Sorry, I've just gone by many an in-game night while not making any noise just so the zombies leave me alone and it's boring just waiting around.

With all due respect,r I don't understand why some players hate not being able to sleep at night. Why not venture out at night? Is the challenge too difficult? All that time sleeping could be spent gathering and preparing. It is detrimental to the game's purpose and the player's ability to be properly armed, stored, and defended. Personally, I love the thrill and the jump scares. I've got over 1100 hours so far in this game and at the point that I'm at with experience, I can take this game on with melee weapons, enemies set to RUN in the daytime, SPRINT at night, and NIGHTMARE for ferals (applies to day and night) and I can still survive with a spear, sledge, blunderbuss and bow with these settings. Sorry, but there's literally zero excuse as to why you need to "wait around" at night. Just pure laziness and lack of imagination and the hunger for a good thrill. Maybe this type of game isn't for you? Or maybe you just need a nice kick in the bum?

I've never understood the reasoning behind it either. I do all my best looting at night. I get the buff that unlocks all inventory space at night from the book, and that makes it even better. Then during the day when I can see stuff, is when I do my building and working.

[[-=O=-]^FightinCock]

First few nights i'm building raised walk ways to next buildings and or future horde base...
Wood being so plentiful... there's always something to do at night.
Or killing stuff!

Although i do remember when i first started 7dtd making a 3 x 3 wooden tower in the middle of a forest to camp on at night.... but that was when towns were bad to visit in early game.

Now... even on day/night 1... its go to town and kill everything that moves!

sleeping... would just be a waste of time/exp.

[No Exit]

I'm just asking for the option. Having the option to sleep (especially in early game when you can't do much stuck inside your base), is helpful.

I know how badass everyone is who doesn't need to sleep - and guess what? You don't have to.

[Hellsmoke]

Going to have to disagree with a bit of this.

Originally posted by Shurenai:

You could be mining; Keep a close ear out and you can mine all night long. Yeah, you won't get much with a stone axe, but it's a lot more material and exp than you would get from just sitting there.

You wont be doing much of this the first week or two, doing this with a stone axe or even a iron pick without a few skills, takes forever and you'll get very little out of it. Not to mention if a horde drops on you at night in week one or so, you're done. Not really worth the risk imo. In reality..you'll be sitting there sorting inventory a bit and placing a few wood frames until you run out of wood, waiting on morning. Once you get night vision and a few decent weapons you can start mining at night. With the current loot system that will take a while.

I agree with him on the early game and that will usually be the first two weeks give or take unless you are playing on very low settings. That's my opinion after around 1.5k hours and playing since Alpha 9.

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by -=O=-^FightinCock:

First few nights i'm building raised walk ways to next buildings and or future horde base...
Wood being so plentiful... there's always something to do at night.
Or killing stuff!

Although i do remember when i first started 7dtd making a 3 x 3 wooden tower in the middle of a forest to camp on at night.... but that was when towns were bad to visit in early game.

Now... even on day/night 1... its go to town and kill everything that moves!

sleeping... would just be a waste of time/exp.

What do you do this with, your wooden club and no skills? A wooden bow? Come on let's be realistic. You are either exaggerating or playing on very low settings. Let's at least TRY to keep it real.

[Teresa]

I also have plenty to do at night week 1.

I destroy trees and rocks that are very close to my base, keeping an eye out for danger and ready to bolt to safety.

If i'm building my own base from day 1, i work on it at night. If i took over a poi instead, i add wood bars around the top floor or fill in the bottom floor with blocks to make it more sturdy, since i don't use the ground floor.

There are always storage and organization, cooking, and crafting tasks to do.

If i have done all that and it's still night time, i do indeed start a mine, even day 1 with level 1 stone tools. While you don't get a lot of materials compared to late game, You don't need that amount early game.

What you need early game is enough mats to start getting forged iron and cobblestone.

I have been playing since a15. I usually play 1 setting above default. However, i am also a disabled grandmother whose twitch reflex rating is in the negatives. I can't remember the last time i died in week 1. All it takes is paying attention to your surroundings.

[Delacroix]

Originally posted by ⚜ JOST AMMAN ⚜:

Actually it would be cool to add some sleeping mini-game for SP.

My idea would be something like this:

• You start sleeping by choosing the appropriate action from you bed/bedroll
• The game will transition to a "night sleep" event screen
• The game will evaluate the blocks around you and some other "factors" to check each passing hour if something happens
• If you've bad luck and/or bad defenses around you, the game will play the wake-up animation (the one played when you start a new game) and you may end up surrounded by a few zombies!
• If you pass each check all night long then the sleep event screen fades out and the game will play the wake-up animation at 4/6 o'clock and the "new morning sound" will play. Well done!

That sounds interesting. I wouldn't mind having the option of sleeping.

I remember when I was on the 60 day, it was when I decided to build my house. And finally, leaving a garage full of unorganized chests in any home structure generated by the world. And since I already had a lot of resources, approximately lv 100 and a build of traps for blood moons, I was able to focus only on my constructions. And it really was uncomfortable to build during the night due to poor visibility and always having to stop the construction to go and kill some zombies. At this point in the game, I could skip the night because it wouldn't make a difference to me. (I know there is night vision but I didn’t like to use it, I prefer thermal vision in games much more)

However, at the beginning of the game this can be a shot in your own foot. Because you need to prepare for the bloody moons but whoever is playing for the first time will not have this notion of game yet, so in the end it doesn't make much difference because you're probably going to die.

For me it would be an interesting option. It would leave the beginning of the game more "friendly" for those who are starting for the first time and those who are more advanced could have this option, even to spend their days faster for a next blood moon if they wish. (And on the day of the blood moon you cannot use the option to sleep)

[Mardoin69]

I believe it's more about the difference between being a novice player or seasoned player. When I first started out, getting the hang of the game was tough and being able to 'sleep' thru the night sounded good. But, since it isn't an option, I turned up brightness JUST enough to be able to make out things at night. Once you get a headlamp, you don't need that adjustment of course cuz it can also make daytime a little too bright or glare.
After getting the hang of the game, night time isn't such a big deal anymore. Even starting out, I can find enough things to do in order to stay busy.....even if it's just setting up your base asthetically for a bit.

[Seftak]

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

Originally posted by -=O=-^FightinCock:

First few nights i'm building raised walk ways to next buildings and or future horde base...
Wood being so plentiful... there's always something to do at night.
Or killing stuff!

Although i do remember when i first started 7dtd making a 3 x 3 wooden tower in the middle of a forest to camp on at night.... but that was when towns were bad to visit in early game.

Now... even on day/night 1... its go to town and kill everything that moves!

sleeping... would just be a waste of time/exp.

What do you do this with, your wooden club and no skills? A wooden bow? Come on let's be realistic. You are either exaggerating or playing on very low settings. Let's at least TRY to keep it real.

The game is balanced around nomad or scavenger or i don't know how the normal difficulty is called... If you play on higher difficulty and complain the game is too hard then it's on you.

You can quite easily kill every zombies with a wooden club or a stone sledge on night 1 if you know how to use it.

[KellyR]

Originally posted by Seftak:

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

What do you do this with, your wooden club and no skills? A wooden bow? Come on let's be realistic. You are either exaggerating or playing on very low settings. Let's at least TRY to keep it real.

The game is balanced around nomad or scavenger or i don't know how the normal difficulty is called... If you play on higher difficulty and complain the game is too hard then it's on you.

You can quite easily kill every zombies with a wooden club or a stone sledge on night 1 if you know how to use it.

*standing with blood dripping from hands*

You guys use weapons?

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by Seftak:

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

What do you do this with, your wooden club and no skills? A wooden bow? Come on let's be realistic. You are either exaggerating or playing on very low settings. Let's at least TRY to keep it real.

The game is balanced around nomad or scavenger or i don't know how the normal difficulty is called... If you play on higher difficulty and complain the game is too hard then it's on you.

You can quite easily kill every zombies with a wooden club or a stone sledge on night 1 if you know how to use it.

lol yeah well I haven't played the game on that difficulty in a long time and I never said it was too difficult for me did I? I said that I agree with the op that sleeping through the first few nights sounds great because mining with a level 1 or 2 stone axe is not what I consider fun. Especially with no skills and nothing but a wooden club to defend myself. I'm not going to sit there pounding on one or two iron blocks all night. For all that I'll just sit in my base and watch a YT video while I wait on morning until I have a few skills to put a dent that piece of iron.

Do I think they will implement this? Of course not, I just stated my opinion and can understand why the op wants it.

Also, I think that after over 1000 hours I know how to use a wooden club, thanks.