please make hunger and thirst bars visible while driving

[KromeHWI]

your health and stamina bars are visible but because the tool-belt goes away when you get into a vehicle, so too does the food and thirst bars.. why these were put there and not over with the other "health" bars makes no sense me my anyway, but at least we should be able to see this info whenever we need to, even while driving.

[Shurenai]

The food/water bars were originally removed for various reasons, among them one of the bigger ones is that they take up a bunch of screen real estate for no real good reason- It's not something you need to know exactly how much you have at all times like stamina or health. It's served well enough by having the debuff indications and by the sfx that plays from time to time; and you were able to see exact values by checking your character sheet with B.

But people complained for months, so they finally re-included it; But, not wanting it to take a huge amount of real estate again and not wanting it to be intrusive, they put it along the bottom of the hotbar.


With that said, Are you driving 90% of the time or something, that you need to know how hungry/thirsty you are even while driving? You cant eat or drink while you're in the vehicle anyway, so why is it important to be able to see hunger/thirst at a glance? You need to get out of the vehicle to eat/drink anyway. I think the B menu solves it well enough. But I also don't see any real reason -not- to also add the bars to the vehicle UI as well......I just dont see any good reason TO add it either.

[SylenThunder]

If you need to look while driving, the B menu screen still works fine.

[KromeHWI]

i actually do spend a lot of time driving (probably as much as 40-60% depending on what i am doing, as the map is quite large and once you have a vehicle you are driving a LOT), and yes it has been an issue at times, otherwise i would not have made a post about it. there is no reason to hide this information (i have never understood/agreed with the push back on this request). were the bars put over with the other bars it would not make the UI too cluttered at all, and it would make much more sense to have all this info in one place rather than putting some of it in the corner, and the rest hidden under the tool belt (which seems to be a totally illogical and arbitrary place to put them in the first place).

as for hitting the B menu, this is NOT as good an option because i prefer to leave the B menu tab on my loadout and character visual rather than the other menus (as this is much more often when i am hitting B to deal with), and more so, i am usually flying these days for driving, so opening menus is often a bad idea in this circumstance for any reason, as is hopping out of the vehicle just to be able to check how hungry i am...

i get that this is a debated issue, i have been part of this debate for a some time, but now that they have agreed to put the information on the screen for us, it is not too much to ask that this information be readily available and all in one place at all times. keep them the same narrow bar, but stack them under the others. it would add only a very small extra bit of visual overlay to what is already there. if people really dont like it, make it an option in the menus to show or hide it from the UI. there is no reason we can not all have it the way we want it.

[SylenThunder]

Well the simple bit of it is that they chose to hide the toolbar while you're in vehicles because the toolbar items are not usable while on a vehicle. These information bars are part of the toolbar.

It's not like there aren't a million UI mods you can use anyway.

[KromeHWI]

of course there are mods, i prefer not to use them for many reasons that dont factor into this discussion. im not talking about mods, im talking about the game itself.

and im not arguing that the toolbar should be visible while driving, there is no need for it because you can not use the tools while driving. if anything this further proves my point that the food and thirst bars should NOT be part of the toolbar, because this information has nothing to do with your tools, and IS still useful when driving...

[KromeHWI]

to be clear, it doesnt really bother me that the bars are under the tool bar, although it doesnt make a lot of logical sense as ive already stated previously. i am complaining that this useful information is hidden when you get in a vehicle. as long as the information is there on the screen at all times, i dont much care where it is. just that it is there.