stamina bs

[Cies]

great idea to use stamina to attack, run, mine, all together, then the game throws you in a room with 10 zombies and the only thing you can do is take a hit until you die, this game gets more stupid with each update.

[blazha]

Seftak님이 먼저 게시:

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

Even with max T-Rex skill you still use stamina much faster than it regenerates, I don't know what second skill for stamina usage is (for using melee and tools).

The other one is for running. And is it really a bad thing that stamina now matters?? In older alpha you could totally ignore stamina. And with some stamina boosts you could just power attack willy-nilly.

People complains all the time that the game as lost all survival feature and when you adjust the game to make it more survival you get those "stamina is too tough for me" and "wtf i now need to eat???" threads.....

It's ok for stamina to be issue on the begining, but to be an issue till the end is not. You should be able to swing normal attacks with steel tools/sledgehammer without losing any stamina after you maxed T-Rex. I would even like that Miner69er decrease stamina usage for tools only, like it used to pre A17. Power attacks are a different thing, they should always make your stamina go down fast.

Edit: even ergonomic grip doesn't help, you need to chug coffee constantly if you are using steel tools for mining.

[Myrkana]

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

Seftak님이 먼저 게시:

Have you even noticed the 2 skills made exactly to help with stamina usage? And the dozens of food items that give you stamina boost?

Even with max T-Rex skill you still use stamina much faster than it regenerates, I don't know what second skill for stamina usage is (for using melee and tools).

use coffee. Blackstrap coffe is even better.

Theres no more 10 stacks of iron by day 5 just from mining and an entire large concrete base by day 7 just with one person mining resources.

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

Seftak님이 먼저 게시:

The other one is for running. And is it really a bad thing that stamina now matters?? In older alpha you could totally ignore stamina. And with some stamina boosts you could just power attack willy-nilly.

People complains all the time that the game as lost all survival feature and when you adjust the game to make it more survival you get those "stamina is too tough for me" and "wtf i now need to eat???" threads.....

It's ok for stamina to be issue on the begining, but to be an issue till the end is not. You should be able to swing normal attacks with steel tools/sledgehammer without losing any stamina after you maxed T-Rex. I would even like that Miner69er decrease stamina usage for tools only, like it used to pre A17. Power attacks are a different thing, they should always make your stamina go down fast.

Edit: even ergonomic grip doesn't help, you need to chug coffee constantly if you are using steel tools for mining.

you used to be able to, what happened it people rushed to it and ended up with concrete bases by day 7 and were bored.

Drink some coffee, find the mining book for blackstrap coffee, find the book that gives extra for drinking coffee. Theres plenty of things built into the game to help right now.

[Seftak]

Myrkana님이 먼저 게시:

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

Even with max T-Rex skill you still use stamina much faster than it regenerates, I don't know what second skill for stamina usage is (for using melee and tools).

use coffee. Blackstrap coffe is even better.

Theres no more 10 stacks of iron by day 5 just from mining and an entire large concrete base by day 7 just with one person mining resources.

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

It's ok for stamina to be issue on the begining, but to be an issue till the end is not. You should be able to swing normal attacks with steel tools/sledgehammer without losing any stamina after you maxed T-Rex. I would even like that Miner69er decrease stamina usage for tools only, like it used to pre A17. Power attacks are a different thing, they should always make your stamina go down fast.

Edit: even ergonomic grip doesn't help, you need to chug coffee constantly if you are using steel tools for mining.

you used to be able to, what happened it people rushed to it and ended up with concrete bases by day 7 and were bored.

Drink some coffee, find the mining book for blackstrap coffee, find the book that gives extra for drinking coffee. Theres plenty of things built into the game to help right now.

"But those things require me to play diffently than i've been playing for the last decade!!!!" Will be the next post i bet...

[Lady MacBeth]

Notes from new build say they lowered iron tool stamina costs. I have to run some errands and cant look yet, but the notes didnt mention steel so I assume those were left the same for now.

[Darkside99x]

And so the cycle will continue.

Some gamer's play the system.

The Dev's change the game to counter what a few gamer's do.

Older gamer's have to yet again change how they play the game because of extreme changes to specifics because of another groups actions.

Said gamer's look for new exploits.


And on and on.


In a few weeks coffee and beer may be gone or be locked behind something.


I would rather the system was balanced to be playable without relying on magic potions.

I saw that todays update reduced Iron tool's stamina cost which is a good step, it was requiring 3 points in sexyrex just to manage them before.

[blazha]

Myrkana님이 먼저 게시:

blazha님이 먼저 게시:

Drink some coffee, find the mining book for blackstrap coffee, find the book that gives extra for drinking coffee. Theres plenty of things built into the game to help right now.

There is no guranteed drop for blackstrap book or any other book so "go find it" kinda doesn't work that well. It can drop on day 1 or day 10 or day 100. There should be multiple ways of solving issues, not just 1. If someone don't wanna waste perk points on mining perks he can drink coffe and still do the work, but if someone dedicated multiple levels just for mining he shouldn't have to go look for recipes that will allow him to mine.

[ShadowTani]

Other than drinking coffee (and perhaps beer as well if you got the perk book that removes the blurring), also keep your hydration counter up since you'll have an additional stamina regen while the hydration counter is active. The counter will go down with need rather than per second once you're above max hydration, so drink red tea in addition to reduce that need (efficient digestion buff) and thus make that counter last for longer.

And the ergonomic grip DOES help, it's like one level of t-rex in itself. Just because it's not enough in itself doesn't mean it should be overlooked.

I dunno if the armor stamina penalty only affects sprinting, or if it affects all stamina drain, but personally I don't do mining/harvesting while wearing armor just in case.

And people complaining about late game stamina drain without having an auger and chainsaw: sorry, but you've yet to get your ass to the late game.

With all of this I personally felt the stamina was managable enough before this current patch, though was agreeing that the tools could need a slight stamina adjustment. This patch gave us that tool adjustment, so there should be no more need to complain about stamina imo if people just try to adapt a little as well.

[Lady MacBeth]

ShadowTani님이 먼저 게시:

Other than drinking coffee, also keep your hydration counter up since you'll have an additional stamina regen while the hydration counter is active. The counter will go down with need rather than per second once you're above max hydration, so drink red tea in addition to reduce that need (efficient digestion buff) and thus make that counter last for longer.

And the ergonomic grip DOES help, it's like one level of t-rex in itself. Just because it's not enough in itself doesn't mean it should be overlooked.

I dunno if the armor stamina penalty only affects sprinting, or if it affects all stamina drain, but personally I don't do mining/harvesting while wearing armor just in case.

And people complaining about late game stamina drain without having an auger and chainsaw: sorry, but you've yet to get your ass to the late game.

With all of this I personally felt the stamina was managable enough before this current patch, though was agreeing that the tools could need a slight stamina adjustment. This patch gave us that tool adjustment, so there should be no more need to complain about stamina imo if people just try to adapt a little as well.

Armor stamina penalty effects all stamina drain as far as I have noticed.

[8Pfundspeck]

best Hint: crouch for faster regeneration, mindblowing i know.

[Seftak]

8Pfundspeck님이 먼저 게시:

best Hint: crouch for faster regeneration, mindblowing i know.

So i was not insane thinking it did indeed regenerate faster...