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Did you think with your head when you wrote your message? What, besides the Americans, in this topic can there be comments from people from other countries who are in no way concerned about your situation in the country? because games and politics are not the same thing and should not be connected. As your president said, people just found a reason to behave badly. It's strange to hear from you advice to go outside and do the same on the steam forum where we just play video games...
because most players don't know how to fill out a simple bug report form, and instead would flock to the forums , cry BROKEN PATCH!!!!!!! , review bomb the game and contribute nothing constructive. And we -will- get the update. That following Monday. Even if there was no streaming event, we still wouldn't get the update "early".
The rules say that you are buying access to the game as it develops. You are correct and I was wrong about the rules stating that a studio could re-charge for the release version. According to Steam once you have access to the game while it is in development you don't lose access to it once development is over. Thanks for the correction.
It doesn't change the point that you always have access to a development version of the game. Where in the rules does it state that you purchase any one particular version?
You are really weird guys. I think the strangest ones I saw in the Steam.
The point is that you have one part of the players who have early access to the game in early access, no matter how funny it sounds, and some other players (streamers) have even earlier access to the alpha version of the game in early access.
Sounds like the start of a funny joke, but it really happens.But you yourself admitted that this was done solely for you to advertise streamers, and streamers advertise the game. (update) this is your business, but personally I have a completely different understanding in marketing. This is a request to Valve to put information about the game on the Steam main page, make a news invitation to buy and check game and make a small discount for the game.
No, you did not understand correctly. The Fun Pimps were never going to charge twice for the same game. Even if such a policy existed under the Steam Early Access rules we were never going to do that. Sorry for the confusion. I hope this translates okay for you.
As for the rest I've already explained our perspective a number of times regarding the preview event for A19. I don't think you will ever be convinced so you just need to decide for yourself if your loyalty can bridge these waters or not.
First, I have no dog in this fight. I always wait until the stable builds come out so I don't ragequit due to bugs, which are inevitable even in "stable" builds. I'm not a streamer, so this argument doesn't affect me either way.
Second, I've thought about becoming a YouTube streamer since the lockdown started. I haven't done so because I don't really have a unique take on anything except science and politics, which most people either seem not to care about, or are so close-minded that they troll you once you say any single thing.
That said, I have a couple of salient points about this argument.
1) You're wrong when you say anyone can become a streamer with 5000 subs.
First, it requires at least $200 worth of hardware (at least a decent microphone and webcam), assuming you have a computer fast enough to play the game AND do all the streaming overhead (video and audio recording simultaneously with gameplay at full resolution).
Second, you're assuming that subscriptions are automatic. I hate to tell you, but they aren't. You can "work your butt off" as much as you like, but you're never guaranteed subscriptions. YouTube makes it difficult for new streamers to get noticed, as there's no "up and coming streamer" section for newbies only. If I wanted to watch 7DTD streams, and the streamers are all doing H2H builds, I won't subscribe (I prefer sniper builds). In fact, Joel's account is the only one I'm subbed to, and it's been dead for months.
2) I can understand that you want to promote your message far and wide, but you can do the new version streaming at the same time as the regular players. What difference does 2 days of exclusive streaming do? It does nothing for me, I'm waiting for the "stable" version and not watching any streams unless it's the official stream showing the highlights of the new version. All it does is say, "unless you have the spare money to get a streaming rig and you've been streaming for months on end to build subscribers, you can't play the new version - you have to wait 2 days". Yeah, it's only two days, and I wait a lot longer for the "stable" version. But that's 2 unnecessary days of waiting for a lot of players. Yes, a lot of them will watch the streamers, but that's because they can't play the game (if they could play the latest version, they would, but the Pimps say no).
Like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight. But it sounds like the Pimps are using FOMO and a false front of "equality" to recruit streamers to put the word out about 7DTD for free. That's not equal, that's simply lowball blackmail. Personally, I don't care - I only read this thread because it had A19 in the title and I wanted to see what was new.
I posted this to make sure that the BS was stripped from this argument I've been reading. If you want to say, "yeah, streamers get it first, so we can up our concurrent player numbers when we release the "Stable" build, that's fine, just be honest about it up front. The Pimps are business people, out to make money, so why the BS? Just tell it like it is: yes, the streamers are given the best access because they raise the views of our game and the number of buyers of early access, which keeps us afloat. You want to help raise our views, make a stream, and you can help us and play at the same time (ignoring the 5000 sub limit for this example).
Like I said, just my 2 cents, YMMV. To become a legit streamer, I would have to sink at least $400 into a quality mike and webcam, plus the swing mount and windscreen for the mike, plus some sort of mixing software to regulate the volume at run-time. I'd also need to shell out for software that would allow run-time screen capture to video, with my mike and webcam plugged into that. So, a minimum of $500, and that's assuming my 2014-over-spec-build computer could handle it all. It can do iTunes and 7DTD at nearly max specs, but with the streaming stuff on top of it all...I don't know if it could handle it. Cheap computers probably won't, even without the iTunes in the background. (Note: I use iTunes in the background because I shut off the ambient random horror-movie noises and music, and add my own music - like Anthrax' "Fight Em 'Til You Can't" or Slayer's "Raining Blood").
So, please don't tell everyone that they have an equal chance of becoming a streamer. It's not cheap, it's not guaranteed, and it takes a while to get noticed, if it ever happens (sometimes it doesn't).
I'm not wrong. If I had said anyone can become a streamer with 5000 subs instantly or without some hard work and practice THAT would be wrong. It's true that someone starting today won't make it for the A19 event but they certainly could try for the A20 event.
Not so. Really all it requires is a winning and magnetic personality and show that is compelling to watch. You can start very cheaply and upgrade your equipment if you wish. Your assuming that the equipment makes the show which is probably what most streamers who can't get to 5k rely upon to soothe themselves.
I never assumed they are automatic. I understand how the subscription process works just fine and I also understand that creme rises to the top.
So you aren't the targeted demographic that's all and I already stated we know that the people who are indifferent to or against watching streamers is a very small portion of the gaming community and shrinking. Exclusivity breeds excitement. Since you would never get excited no matter what I don't expect you to feel the point of offering streamers exclusive access.
You say "no dog" and "I don't care" a lot for someone who doesn't care... It is called equal opportunity. We are not selecting from the pool of applicants. Everyone who works and achieves the requirements is in. I know that goes against the grain of people who have lived in a participation trophy society but regardless this is the deal. Work and succeed and opportunities open up. We are not suppressing anyone from doing what they want.
Anyone who has a rig that can play this game is almost there. I make videos already and invested nothing beyond what I already had except getting the full version of bandicam instead using the free version. I just don't have the will to be a streamer.
All I've been doing is telling how it is. But when I do people get mad because they don't want to face the facts and they think I am cocky because I am confident in the truth.
Averaging 15,000 players a day, With a 25 to 30k peak count each month; and ranked 30th on monthly activity beating out other very popular games like Skyrim, L4D2....I think it's pretty well into the realm of 'Popular'. You may not think it is..But it is. There are anumber of youtube channels that do primarily 7DTD content and have 100k+ subscribers; And even more that do 7DTD each major patch and have as many or more than that.
5,000 is a reasonably low bar to entry, all things considered.