IMO: Trigger mods shouldnt exist (for AK and MP5)

[SpikeyPancake]

Those guns naturally have the ability to switch between, auto, burst, or single shot, they shouldnt need to take a modification slot to do so

[Mytheos]

Civilian are all semi-auto.

Full auto or burst is illegal.

So the vast majority you find wouldnt have anything but semi.

[SpikeyPancake]

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Civilian are all semi-auto.

Full auto or burst is illegal.

So the vast majority you find wouldnt have anything but semi.

didnt know that, also in the game all the mp5 and Ak default at full auto so if they were the "civilian" then semi- auto would have been either default or an option to switch it to them and if they were "law enforcement or military" then they would have had the ability to switch between fire mods on the fly anyway

[Mytheos]

Originally posted by Spikey Pancake:

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Civilian are all semi-auto.

Full auto or burst is illegal.

So the vast majority you find wouldnt have anything but semi.

didnt know that, also in the game all the mp5 and Ak default at full auto so if they were the "civilian" then semi- auto would have been either default or an option to switch it to them and if they were "law enforcement or military" then they would have had the ability to switch between fire mods on the fly anyway

Yep, just was mentioning that, I doubt they would change that for realism, but it does make more sense for them to start as Semi-only with the rare ones full auto/burst.

I hope they can make different triggers for each weapon vs using the same trigger types for everything.

[Chaoslink]

Only time will tell how they move forward with this. Given that this is the first iteration of the mods, they haven’t had a chance to take community feedback on them yet. I too would prefer a change to this. It just feels weird since I can add a auto trigger to an already automatic weapon.

[tigerseye]

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Civilian are all semi-auto.

Full auto or burst is illegal.

So the vast majority you find wouldnt have anything but semi.

what? full auto and burst are not illegal

[Mytheos]

Originally posted by tigerseye:

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Civilian are all semi-auto.

Full auto or burst is illegal.

So the vast majority you find wouldnt have anything but semi.

what? full auto and burst are not illegal

Ok, if you want to be technical, the NFA bans full auto weapons that were not grandfathered in prior to the various updates.

You cannot go out and buy a full auto rifle unless it was one grandfathered in, they are highly regulated and very expensive.

[Gazz]

In A16 you had no way at all to change the firing mode of a weapon.
A17 does provide a way and some players complain even about that. LOL

[SpikeyPancake]

Originally posted by Gazz:

In A16 you had no way at all to change the firing mode of a weapon.
A17 does provide a way and some players complain even about that. LOL

Its an opinion, not a complant

[The Pistol Experience]

Wut r u TRIGGERed????



lol jk

On a more serious note, i disagree that these weapons need the trigger groups, semi, burst and auto inbuilt. When you add the trigger you get extra damage from the gun, and thats awesome IMO. But to be honest why would you bottleneck these guns making them non automatic? That's their main advantage, having them automatic you can just tap and be semi or hold the mouse for a little to make it burst.

Note to FunPimps:
Please fix the autotrigger nailgun, it fires 9999 nails, and will end up with a clip of -9989 which means it has to be reloaded several hundreds of times to be usable again.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Dapper Illuminatist:

But to be honest why would you bottleneck these guns making them non automatic?

Depends on the player. I would prefer semi auto on all of them always all the time forever. Just now a full auto kind of person. I prefer the harder hitting, more accurate single shot weapons to rapid fire all the time. In a game like this, it just helps to conserve resources for ammo by making sure each shot is maximized.

[The Pistol Experience]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Dapper Illuminatist:

But to be honest why would you bottleneck these guns making them non automatic?

Depends on the player. I would prefer semi auto on all of them always all the time forever. Just now a full auto kind of person. I prefer the harder hitting, more accurate single shot weapons to rapid fire all the time. In a game like this, it just helps to conserve resources for ammo by making sure each shot is maximized.

Your not wrong, ofc it's up to preferance. My main point is that you can use a full auto ak, almost as efficently as a modded semi, in tapping but if you are cornered the extra firerate is more useful which makes full auto more flexible.

[Chaoslink]

I suppose. Though if we wanted to get really specific with it, they could simply have two versions of each, civilian and military. Civilian SMG would be set to single and military to auto. Then allow the player to change them at will using the trigger mods. You can still add an auto trigger to an automatic gun for the damage boost.

[AceTheLegend]

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Originally posted by tigerseye:

what? full auto and burst are not illegal

Ok, if you want to be technical, the NFA bans full auto weapons that were not grandfathered in prior to the various updates.

You cannot go out and buy a full auto rifle unless it was one grandfathered in, they are highly regulated and very expensive.

You can create or buy full-auto, burst, silencers, and many other classifications as long as you have the proper licenses/documents, which in turn is legal. The latter is to do any of the before mentioned without proper licenses/documents in place which makes it illegal.

[Captain Pike]

Originally posted by AceTheLegend:

Originally posted by Mytheos:

Ok, if you want to be technical, the NFA bans full auto weapons that were not grandfathered in prior to the various updates.

You cannot go out and buy a full auto rifle unless it was one grandfathered in, they are highly regulated and very expensive.

You can create or buy full-auto, burst, silencers, and many other classifications as long as you have the proper licenses/documents, which in turn is legal. The latter is to do any of the before mentioned without proper licenses/documents in place which makes it illegal.

There is also the option of bump stocks, they do botch controllability though. The gun is legally, still a semi automatic.

[AceTheLegend]

Originally posted by Sir Pike:

Originally posted by AceTheLegend:

You can create or buy full-auto, burst, silencers, and many other classifications as long as you have the proper licenses/documents, which in turn is legal. The latter is to do any of the before mentioned without proper licenses/documents in place which makes it illegal.

There is also the option of bump stocks, they do botch controllability though. The gun is legally, still a semi automatic.

There are also trigger groups where it is one pull of trigger it fires and once you release trigger it fires also. Based on how the law is written, a semi-auto is consider 1 shot per action of the trigger. Bump stocks and those trigger groups fall under that guideline. The NFA law that banned full-auto and other weapons from civilians was because of the Prohibtion Era mobsters that were out gunning the police. The law only served to disarm law abiding citizens because we all know criminals don't follow laws, but I digress. :D