RMG world size

[Toddasaurus Rex]

Is it just me or are the world sizes way too small? the largest world option in the client is like 1/3rd the size of what worlds were in A17 with the advanced world gen option. I'd love to tear into the game on SP but tiny worlds I can run across in like a day on foot are boring, and literally kill any hope i'd have to play this for an extended period

[Khissi]

*tries to imagine running across Pregen 3 in one day... doesn't succeed*

[Toddasaurus Rex]

I wasn't talking about the pregen maps, I meant the randomly generated.

[OzHawkeye]

Given what the Nitrogen map generator can do, hopefully the default one gets some love soon.

That said, I play SP, and I've yet to run out of POI's to loot even on a 4k map. The closest I got was about 2/3's way through one, day 100+(x) somewhere, with a base fully upgraded to steel from top to bottom, and every piece of loot imaginable and massive stacks of it too.

In SP, you couldn't possibly exhaust a 4k map I reckon, let alone an 8k one.

[War3zuk]

16k maps are the only size to play MP... Maps are tiny now & yeah nitrogen on 4k 8k 12k or 16k is great givin that you can run compo & custom prefabs.. I uploaded my own 8192 block map the other day using compo prefabs & it takes 7 in game days just to raid 1 town lol

[Vimes]

Originally posted by OzHawkeye:

Given what the Nitrogen map generator can do, hopefully the default one gets some love soon.

That said, I play SP, and I've yet to run out of POI's to loot even on a 4k map. The closest I got was about 2/3's way through one, day 100+(x) somewhere, with a base fully upgraded to steel from top to bottom, and every piece of loot imaginable and massive stacks of it too.

In SP, you couldn't possibly exhaust a 4k map I reckon, let alone an 8k one.

That is what I'm finding as well with the Nitrogen 8k map I have just started to play.
I have not played a RWG map before, always Navezgane.
I have decided not to bother using a compo back for the prefab list, even tho it is wonderful to see the new buildings, some of the POI's are far too rich for me with what they contain and how I like to play the game.
This 8k map does seem huge, perhaps too big for a single player, well for me anyway.

Size wise how does a 4k map compare to the Nitrogen one.....?

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Vimes:

Originally posted by OzHawkeye:

Given what the Nitrogen map generator can do, hopefully the default one gets some love soon.

That said, I play SP, and I've yet to run out of POI's to loot even on a 4k map. The closest I got was about 2/3's way through one, day 100+(x) somewhere, with a base fully upgraded to steel from top to bottom, and every piece of loot imaginable and massive stacks of it too.

In SP, you couldn't possibly exhaust a 4k map I reckon, let alone an 8k one.

That is what I'm finding as well with the Nitrogen 8k map I have just started to play.
I have not played a RWG map before, always Navezgane.
I have decided not to bother using a compo back for the prefab list, even tho it is wonderful to see the new buildings, some of the POI's are far too rich for me with what they contain and how I like to play the game.
This 8k map does seem huge, perhaps too big for a single player, well for me anyway.

Size wise how does a 4k map compare to the Nitrogen one.....?

4k is 4k; whether it's vanilla gen or nitrogen. 8k is 8k, 16k is 16k; The value is how large of an area it is. For comparison, Navezgane is a 6.1k map, about halfway between 4k and 8k map.

[Vimes]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Vimes:

That is what I'm finding as well with the Nitrogen 8k map I have just started to play.
I have not played a RWG map before, always Navezgane.
I have decided not to bother using a compo back for the prefab list, even tho it is wonderful to see the new buildings, some of the POI's are far too rich for me with what they contain and how I like to play the game.
This 8k map does seem huge, perhaps too big for a single player, well for me anyway.

Size wise how does a 4k map compare to the Nitrogen one.....?

4k is 4k; whether it's vanilla gen or nitrogen. 8k is 8k, 16k is 16k; The value is how large of an area it is. For comparison, Navezgane is a 6.1k map, about halfway between 4k and 8k map.

Thanks, that is what I wanted to know.
Having played Navezgane only it is useful to know that it equates to about half way between a 4k and 8k map.
Perhaps a 8k map might be just right for me.
As you can't, as yet, define biome percentages with NitroGen I am testing out editing my own biomes.png file.

[blazha]

Originally posted by The T.O.D.D.:

I wasn't talking about the pregen maps, I meant the randomly generated.

Pregen maps are 8k, they are actually random gen with seeds PREGEN01, PREGEN02 and PREGEN03. You can choose map size when generating new world, there are 4k and 8k options. 8k is more than enough for SP. You couldn't loot everything in 500 days. Alpha 17 had 16k option, and you can generate that size in A18 if you install "Red Eagles more rwg sizes modlet" , but it will take 9+ hours depending on your system.

[C54M2]

RWG maps are to small for the things in game now we have motor bike 4x4 helicopter.4K/8K maps you can walk round i think 16K+ are the things for these to come into there own.

[Damocles]

In Nitrogen you can easily select 4k, 6k, 8k, 10k, 12k, 14k or 16k from the dropdown.
For singleplayer I would suggest something around 6k to 10k.

16k is really huge, and is really more an otpion for larger server communities (and good client machines).

In Nitrogen, the world has enough landscape obstacles (mountains, rivers, lakes) so that it takes a while to travel around. (not in a straight line). The world feels larger this way. Even exploring everything in a 4k map would take several days ingame.

Pumping up the city sizes, will also never leave you out of POIs to loot. (You can have 500 POIs in a megasized city)

[Toddasaurus Rex]

So I looked into nitrogen and made a 14k world, pretty happy with the preview and functionality. I'm spending a couple days off binging A18 now, thanks to everyone in the thread that recommended it, only took 11 minutes to make the world. Gonna spend my 2 days off binging this game now.