problems with a 4k monitor

[hevice]

I have recently upgraded from a full HD monitor (1980 x1080) to a 4k monitor (3840x2160). Now I have a small problem with the fps.

When I set the resolution to 3840x2160 I'm lucky if I get 30 fps. Ussually it hovers around 20 with settigs on ultra.
When I go back to 1980x1080 I get a fps between 50 to 60 on ultra.
My quistion is this is it my rig
-AMD ryzen 7 2700x 8core
-geforce gtx 1060 6gig
16 gig ram.

Or is it the game itself. Does anyone have the same problems, or is it just me?

[SylenThunder]

This is a voxel game. The more you increase the resolution, the more work you put on your CPU and RAM. It's also not designed for 4k at all. It's barely even optimized for 1080p.

Basically, your CPU isn't capable of supporting the processing speeds required for that high of a resolution. Even running SLI isn't much help. We recently had a long discussion and testing on this in the official forum.

[hevice]

ah. that explains alot. I well set the resolution back down. thanks for the help

[FT]

The 4K resolution will hit your GPU hard (up to 3X-4X harder than 1080p) in any game. Unless it's a really simple game, expect 4K to cut your framerates down anywhere from half to a quarter.

In 7Days, if you really want to play at 4K on a gtx1060 try turning off SSReflections, that'll give you about 150% higher fps.
You can also get decent little improvements by turning off DepthOfField and MotionBlur, turning ShadowDetail to MEDIUM and lowering TreeDistance to HIGH instead of ULTRA.

Also, turning ReflectionQuality down to MEDIUM or LOW will help the game run smoother without affecting how it looks much at all. This is a good idea at any resolution.

All of these together won't hurt how the game looks too noticeably unless you're a huge fan of motionblur, and it'll double your fps...so you'll be around 100-120fps at 1080p or 40-60fps at 4K.

[FT]

Not really related to FPS at 4K:

Your FPS minimums -where the game gets stuttery in cities or large buildings- that's when the game is hitting your CPU and RAM-speed hard. The best solutions for these right now are to set your RAM speed up to its rating XMP profile in BIOS (or beyond that along with tightening timings if you're comfortable doing so) and increasing your CPU's maximums speed...which in your case can be done by shutting off 4-6cores, disabling SMT/hyperthreading, and seeing if you can get an all-core overclock of 4.4ghz or more at stock voltage or around 1.4volts.

Even unhindered by your GPU, at over 4.0ghz you won't see 7Days saturating more than 3cores...AKA, even if you set your CPU to either 3cores3threads or 2cores4threads, you'll never see 7Days push your CPU to 100%. BUT locking your cpu to 3c3th or 2c4th will allow it to overclock higher and run cooler at the same time, and this will let rougher parts of 7Days run a little smoother.

If you also use your computer for long movie file conversions or 4K editing, most bios will let you save your overclocked settings to easily switch between your gaming setup and your editing setup so it only takes a few seconds to switch.
If you use your computer mostly just for gaming, internet and other common tasks, leaving it at 4-6cores with SMT disabled and your RAM using its XMP profile can help all of that be a little more snappy and run a little cooler/quieter.

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by FT:

Not really related to FPS at 4K:

Your FPS minimums -where the game gets stuttery in cities or large buildings- that's when the game is hitting your CPU and RAM-speed hard. The best solutions for these right now are to set your RAM speed up to its rating XMP profile in BIOS (or beyond that along with tightening timings if you're comfortable doing so) and increasing your CPU's maximums speed...which in your case can be done by shutting off 4-6cores, disabling SMT/hyperthreading, and seeing if you can get an all-core overclock of 4.4ghz or more at stock voltage or around 1.4volts.

Even unhindered by your GPU, at over 4.0ghz you won't see 7Days saturating more than 3cores...AKA, even if you set your CPU to either 3cores3threads or 2cores4threads, you'll never see 7Days push your CPU to 100%. BUT locking your cpu to 3c3th or 2c4th will allow it to overclock higher and run cooler at the same time, and this will let rougher parts of 7Days run a little smoother.

If you also use your computer for long movie file conversions or 4K editing, most bios will let you save your overclocked settings to easily switch between your gaming setup and your editing setup so it only takes a few seconds to switch.
If you use your computer mostly just for gaming, internet and other common tasks, leaving it at 4-6cores with SMT disabled and your RAM using its XMP profile can help all of that be a little more snappy and run a little cooler/quieter.

This is 100% correct.

All I did to take my average FPS from 60-80 up to 110FPS was overclock my CPU from 4.1GHz to 4.25GHz, and then set my RAM from the system default clock speed to the XMP profile. Now instead of dipping into the 40's for a horde, it only maybe dips down to about 70FPS.

[hevice]

I changed some settings and with the 4k settings it hovers around 25-35 fps.

I think I will pla withthe 1980x1080 resolution. It's a shame 3840x2160 isn't a viable option because of the engine. So be it. Maybe in the future builds you guys can make some improvements.

This game is to fun to stop playing.

[FT]

Originally posted by henk1106:

I changed some settings and with the 4k settings it hovers around 25-35 fps.
I think I will pla withthe 1980x1080 resolution. It's a shame 3840x2160 isn't a viable option because of the engine. So be it. Maybe in the future builds you guys can make some improvements.

The gtx1060 is not a 4K 60fps card for any demanding AAA games. It's not really the engine's fault as much as the midrange GPU which just isn't very powerful.
Not that I'm knocking your PC, since I'm running similar hardware, lol.

If I play 7Days at 4K on Ultra graphics it lands around 15fps right now.
Turning off SSReflections is increasing that to 30fps...Then turning off DepthOfField and MotionBlur increases it to 40.
Overclocking my gtx1060 (it'll go to about 2000mhz core and 4000mhzRAM with Afterburner) increases this up to 50fps.

I'd call this pretty good for a gtx1060 trying to push 4K, so I feel like 7Days is doing pretty well on the GPU front...at least in this regard.

Sadly for the CPU+RAM side of things, parts of 7Days still brings me down into the 30's and occasionally a little lower since the best I can squeeze out of this Ryzen build is 4.2-4.3ghz and I bought cheap 3000mhz CL16 RAM which doesn't stretch much beyond its rating.

[hevice]

Originally posted by FT:

Originally posted by henk1106:

I changed some settings and with the 4k settings it hovers around 25-35 fps.
I think I will pla withthe 1980x1080 resolution. It's a shame 3840x2160 isn't a viable option because of the engine. So be it. Maybe in the future builds you guys can make some improvements.

The gtx1060 is not a 4K 60fps card for any demanding AAA games. It's not really the engine's fault as much as the midrange GPU which just isn't very powerful.
Not that I'm knocking your PC, since I'm running similar hardware, lol.

If I play 7Days at 4K on Ultra graphics it lands around 15fps right now.
Turning off SSReflections is increasing that to 30fps...Then turning off DepthOfField and MotionBlur increases it to 40.
Overclocking my gtx1060 (it'll go to about 2000mhz core and 4000mhzRAM with Afterburner) increases this up to 50fps.

I'd call this pretty good for a gtx1060 trying to push 4K, so I feel like 7Days is doing pretty well on the GPU front...at least in this regard.

Sadly for the CPU+RAM side of things, parts of 7Days still brings me down into the 30's and occasionally a little lower since the best I can squeeze out of this Ryzen build is 4.2-4.3ghz and I bought cheap 3000mhz CL16 RAM which doesn't stretch much beyond its rating.

I;m not really a computer wizard. I normally don;t do overclocking. I just tone my resolution down and I'm happy with it.
I wanted to buy a differetn nvidia card. But I think my wife would kill me if I came home with a 2K grapics card.

[FT]

Originally posted by henk1106:

I;m not really a computer wizard. I normally don;t do overclocking. I just tone my resolution down and I'm happy with it.
I wanted to buy a differetn nvidia card. But I think my wife would kill me if I came home with a 2K grapics card.

Yeah, the next steps up from the gtx1060 (the gtx1070 or 2060) perform roughly 45% faster while costing 75% more. That jump was a little too steep for me as well.

Really wish the 2060 and AMD's 5700 were in the ~$250 range where they belong instead of the $350-$400 swindle they're both pulling.
As a 1060 owner it makes me less jealous of the new stuff when the performance costs the same as it did 3years ago, but I still get angry thinking about the new buyers who are getting kind of screwed.