Base randomly collapsing?

[Tyken132]

I built my base, made sure there was a decent amount of support and planted a garden ontop of it to grow my crops.

I placed everything down and everything seemed 100% fine! I even waited till every thing was fully grown before going up there. As soon as I climb the ladder..everything fell apart?!

Does player weight somehow count? I'm not entirely sure that's the problem, as I tried a similar base design and it randomly collapsed after a day or so.

[DthBlayde]

I believe weight does count, as I've had a ruined wasteland building collapse when a bear chased me up into it, and I've had metal rooftops go into a chain reaction collapse while running (THAT was fun, trying to get off the roof before going down with it..)

In your case, it's entirely possible that the extra body weight was the tipping point. Rooftop gardens are risky as once the veggies grow, the weight jumps up, potentially surpassing the structural integrity of what they're planted on. CRUNCH.

[LuckyStar]

There's a couple videos on YouTube that show structural integrity of several blocks and how it all works.

If you're looking to make longer spans I suggest adding a recipe for Riveted Bridge Metal.
It allows you to span 7 blocks [steel walls only 6] so long as the metal attaches to itself, kind of like laying a beam.

I know metarials have less strength is they aren't attached to the same block so concrete attached to concrete will be stronger than concrete attached to wood, sort of thing.

Those videos will make building much easier for you.

Cheers,

~ Lucky.

[Tyken132]

Hmm, do plants even have weight? the wiki doesn't say so, unless I missed it.

Also, its really strange because I luckily made a backup a day or two prior because this was a reoccuring issue. Didn't collapse this time.

I also tested in creative with full grown crops and sprinting through the garden. Didn't seem to effect it?

It seems to be a bug of sorts

[dragonsphotoworks]

@OP dirt has weight, plants have weight, player has weight. so while might hold X amount.. once you walk on it can trigger collapse.

@Luckystar lol super pillars. or popeye legs what i call those pillars most do.

[RawCode]

gardens are risky, especially if you grow trees

[Teratus]

I've not had a problem making small gardens on top of houses..

I tend to build wooden towers above my house and even after a horde smashes it's way through the house walls nothing ever collapses on me..

What house are you using for this?
if you are building on top of a large building that's probably why.. I'd advise building on smaller buildings only since they are far more sturdy and can support the weight..

Or at least build a huge cobblestone or concrete support pillar in the middle of the house lol

I've seen plenty of people claiming they built on top of a car park or school only to have the whole thing collapse.

[Tyken132]

Hmm, well like I said. I tested it all previously in creative. Full dirt roof with full grown crops and myself ontop. Not sure wtf is wrong/different. I don't even have a full garden/load that I had in creative.

http://i.imgur.com/ah3tFRc.png
Not sure that picture helps much.

[Taros]

Most of the columns on your second level aren't supported by anything, so they're just adding extra weight to the 3rd floor. Try either removing some of those columns, or adding columns directly underneath them on the ground floor.

[Tyken132]

Problem is that it still works for whatever dumb reason....but only most of the time?

Anyway, I want to put more pillars on the ground but i'm afraid the zombies will attack them.

[Ͽ҈҉Ͼ]

Unless you're using an entirely metal 'tray' beneath your dirt (including whatever is at the top of your columns), you won't want your columns spaced more than 2 blocks apart. With metal, you can do 4 between, but you won't want to go more than that.

[owenz]

Make metal trussing from the forge, you can build HUGE structures out of it as it is the highest structural integrity block in the game.

So, the key point to remember is that what ever block is supporting the "weight" for that z level also has to have UNBLOCKED access to the bedrock, meaning that there cannot be any breaks in the connection. If you break the connection the support then is calculated to the adjacent blocks. This can and will cause your structure to collapse.

Another thing of note is that, the material from bedrock to the supporting z level block can be made of anything. The reason for this is that veritcal z support is infinite while horizontal is not. So you can build a sky high pilliar out of sod, then at the very top put a metal trussing and then build out 14 blocks. This is the proper way to build structures.

Keep in mind though that "soft" base material means that a zed could easily break it and drop your whole thing into the ground.

Best of luck with building super structures in 7 days to die, it is a fun prospect.

[Brother Skolas]

im just messing around with creative mode made a Tower base In a lake of water and according to my map im close to 0.0 think game gave me a lucky or unlucky spawn with this as my Trader bob is also close by sitting in a desert zone after i pass 0.0 i enter snow, desert, Hi bob, forest base located near a lake

[Jenshae]

I like to build platforms with inverted ramps to stop spiders getting up them. I made one then an identical one where it was a block higher.
The higher one, the full corners fell off as soon as I stepped onto them.

[Zul]

It seems very recently that farms started acting buggy. I've seen them collapse concrete structures on Skippy0330 and it happened to me too. Crops are disappearing and you will be unable to plant or build on top of that area. Not sure what's going on as I've only noticed this in the last week or so. Never had a problem until now.