Cooked eggs are useless

[Rüdiger]

Hi

Eggs of bird nests should be a viable foodsource but currently they arent.

Not only do i need a whole bottle of water to cook just 1 Egg, the glass jar gets deleted after it also ( not sure if bug, but it happens 100% every time )

You should be able to cook at least 5-10 eggs with 1 water bottle and the jar should not be deleted as it is unlogical.

make eggs great again

[Nobody]

ahh ok nice workarround

[Murdo]

I agree with the OP. Every time somebody posts a comment for discussion on a feature, a bug or an issue of balance, a parade of dunderheads comes running in suggest any workaround that doesn't involve improving the native game, or to tell you things every newbie already knows... as though they get some kind of forum points.

IMO, the solution is simple: add "cooked/fried egg" to the cooking pot recipes, remove the water requirement, and give it the same stats as boiled egg plus a -1 to thirst. It now serves a viable purpose in the very early game, before people locate a more reliable source and start saving their eggs for better, more complicated recipes. If the reason eggs cost a bottle of water is simply a code limitation and not some strange attempt to use up water in the first few days, then I don't see why we've spent several years unable to cook an egg in the same pot we use to cook an egg with bacon.

[Critta]

Murdo a écrit :

I agree with the OP. Every time somebody posts a comment for discussion on a feature, a bug or an issue of balance, a parade of dunderheads comes running in suggest any workaround that doesn't involve improving the native game, or to tell you things every newbie already knows... as though they get some kind of forum points.

IMO, the solution is simple: add "cooked/fried egg" to the cooking pot recipes, remove the water requirement, and give it the same stats as boiled egg plus a -1 to thirst. It now serves a viable purpose in the very early game, before people locate a more reliable source and start saving their eggs for better, more complicated recipes. If the reason eggs cost a bottle of water is simply a code limitation and not some strange attempt to use up water in the first few days, then I don't see why we've spent several years unable to cook an egg in the same pot we use to cook an egg with bacon.

People have tried giving work arounds because crying about it on the stream forums is silly as the fun pimps don't look here for your ideas.
They have offical forums for that on their website

[Murdo]

Critta a écrit :

Murdo a écrit :

I agree with the OP. Every time somebody posts a comment for discussion on a feature, a bug or an issue of balance, a parade of dunderheads comes running in suggest any workaround that doesn't involve improving the native game, or to tell you things every newbie already knows... as though they get some kind of forum points.

IMO, the solution is simple: add "cooked/fried egg" to the cooking pot recipes, remove the water requirement, and give it the same stats as boiled egg plus a -1 to thirst. It now serves a viable purpose in the very early game, before people locate a more reliable source and start saving their eggs for better, more complicated recipes. If the reason eggs cost a bottle of water is simply a code limitation and not some strange attempt to use up water in the first few days, then I don't see why we've spent several years unable to cook an egg in the same pot we use to cook an egg with bacon.

People have tried giving work arounds because crying about it on the stream forums is silly as the fun pimps don't look here for your ideas.
They have offical forums for that on their website

Again... it doesn't seem as though the OP was looking for workarounds or asking for help or pro-tips in gameplay efficiency. Some people come to the general discussion forum to just ... generally discuss a topic. It seems like they ought to be in the right place for it.

[Critta]

If you come to the forums to just "generally discuss a topic" then you would expect people give there thoughts on what to do.

Seems pretty silly to post something but not want feed back that may help the situation.

[eMYNOCK]

Eggs have only one use...

You have to hoard them to make lots of top tier Food later on.

[restarter]

dumbest thread ever

[Karma]

brian9824 a écrit :

Grimm a écrit :

Im in the wilderness. 1 house and 1 shop in 3km distance ( random gen )

All of you dont get the f** point. I dont look for alternatives, i know them.

The point is about *COOKED* EGGS BEEING USELESS compared to their use and their production cost.

No , i dont want to start a new game to have more luck in spawning. I could just eat glass to respawn satisfied and eat nothing at all. But this is not the point

Its known that food isn't balanced right now. It's not much of a priority ATM and will be looked at later. Gazz has posted on it several times.

^This.

Was offered up on Page 1 and seems to be a reasonable piece of info regarding food balancing.

[Mekakoopa]

Lol OP.
'Eggs suck!'
"You don't have to eat eggs man"
'I HATE YOU ALL'

[Geno Five-Two Chiliad]

Eggs are well balanced. They are not meant to be an early game food, unless you are desperate. Much like eating berries and corn, they are designed to be used as components in other recipies. Can you eat them? Sure. They are edible after all. Why would you though. Other early game food is plentiful.

[thomi]

Grimm a écrit :

Nowaydays the term "troll" is often used to mascerade actual stupidity.

A : " Are you really that stupid ? "
B : *nervous cough* " h-he-hehe , nah man im just trolling "

not quite. quite often the word "troll" is a lazy, catch-all term that is misused by hotheads when they encounter opinions they don't like. e.g.:

"i think this aspect of the game design is wrong and needs to be changed"

"i don't agree, i think it's fine"

"you're not agreeing with me! how is this possible, i'm always right! i lack the ability to debate you in a civil manner so um...TROLL! STOP TROLLING ME!"

[Ghostlight]

Marty Martinheimer a écrit :

Grimm a écrit :

Im in the wilderness. 1 house and 1 shop in 3km distance ( random gen )

All of you dont get the f** point. I dont look for alternatives, i know them.

The point is about *COOKED* EGGS BEEING USELESS compared to their use and their production cost.

No , i dont want to start a new game to have more luck in spawning. I could just eat glass to respawn satisfied and eat nothing at all. But this is not the point

they arent useless at all. They still cook, they still give fullness+ and wellness+, yes they eat the jar like everything else in the game that uses water in the recipe. Thats how it is.

OP's point is that early game, cooking an egg is totally not worth it. And he is right. It is a complete waste of the egg, the jar, and even the fuel/time to cook it, given the pitiful amount of fullness/wellness it gives you.

[Unorganized Crime Mob]

Ghostlight a écrit :

Marty Martinheimer a écrit :

they arent useless at all. They still cook, they still give fullness+ and wellness+, yes they eat the jar like everything else in the game that uses water in the recipe. Thats how it is.

OP's point is that early game, cooking an egg is totally not worth it. And he is right. It is a complete waste of the egg, the jar, and even the fuel/time to cook it, given the pitiful amount of fullness/wellness it gives you.

Which is intended. Why do you think yucca doesnt give +30 fullness. because all you have to do is pick it up. Same with eggs. its 1 click to get one.

[Murdo]

Critta a écrit :

If you come to the forums to just "generally discuss a topic" then you would expect people give there thoughts on what to do.

Seems pretty silly to post something but not want feed back that may help the situation.

"Eggs are meant to be hoarded, boiled eggs should only exist for emergencies" is a valid opinion. Not a particularly sound one, but valid repsonse to a disucssion.

"Stop crying, it's easy to get glass jars. Edit the xml if you can't deal with it" is not a valid contribution to the discussion.

BioAnagram a écrit :

Eggs are well balanced. They are not meant to be an early game food

Then why have boiled eggs if they're not meant to be eaten without bacon and blueberries?

Marty Martinheimer a écrit :

Ghostlight a écrit :

OP's point is that early game, cooking an egg is totally not worth it. And he is right. It is a complete waste of the egg, the jar, and even the fuel/time to cook it, given the pitiful amount of fullness/wellness it gives you.

Which is intended. Why do you think yucca doesnt give +30 fullness. because all you have to do is pick it up. Same with eggs. its 1 click to get one.

OP's point was actually that a boiled egg isn't worth it, and he's absolutely right.

Eggs provide the same sustenance as yucca, but are far harder to find. There's no reason not to make them cookable without a jar of water... it doesn't unbalance eggs, nor does it make battling hunger "too easy". If anything it gives players a choice. The veterans will almost always hoard the eggs for later, but that's their choice.

Maybe a better conversation would be: why are deserts, which are supposed to be barren and difficult to survive in, by far the most bountiful biome and easiest to survive in when it comes to food and drink... yet we're worried that being able to fry an egg will unbalance the hunger system?

[Kunovega]

Grimm a écrit :

what did I just say.

You speak about forging and i speak about early game.

When i got the needed leather to make a forge i dont have food problems anymore

Forges are day 1... 2 if you are slow... 3 if you have a monkey on your back...

How is a forge not early game?

Forge + sand = unlimited glass jars... I usually make 500 to 1000 within the first few days and then never have to think about it again....

Needed leather for a forge? Every house or store with a leather couch in it = leather. It takes me longer to find pipes than it does leather (And by longer I mean 5 or 10 minutes tops)