Let's talk about the Old Sham Sandwich

[ZⓄMBIE FLANDERS]

Why is it so common throughout Navezgan?

Also, we need a recipe where we can prepare fresh Sham Sandwiches.

[Myrkana]

Well ham is pretty popular and lots of people eat sandwiches with it :D

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

[Edited]...
It was Sham who turned all people into zombies.
That's why you'll often find one in their pockets.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Bυʀτ Rᴇʏɴᴏʟᴅs:

Why is it so common throughout Navezgan?

Also, we need a recipe where we can prepare fresh Sham Sandwiches.

It's a generic place holder for any kind of food/sandwich. Do you really want them to add 100 different kinds of rotten food?

It's the same reason all "meat" you get from killing animals is the same, it's just generic "meat" as the game doesn't need to care about whether you ate stag, chicken, bear or pig, only that you fed yourself

Originally posted by Green777:

shams are a joke in my rgm map ive found over 200 waste of time they should remove it altogether and that plastic crap another useless item at the moment

Both of those make useful things. You may not need 1000's of them, but they still have their uses

I mean at some point grass stops being useful, you just stop collecting it once you grow beyond that tech level. Does that mean they should remove grass?

Who eats the canned food? Once you grow your own and/or collct meat, the canned food doesn't increase wellness, so why waste your time with it? Should they remove that?

I make plenty of things from plastics, and those sandwiches convert to moldy bread which is used in antibiotics

And even if you are well stocked on those: they sell for a decent amount to the vendor so you can buy something else you might need/want

[I Don't Care]

Early game they can save you from starving if you are that in need of food. After that they do become kinda useless though.

[Cobretti]

I usually start my games in desert but sometimes you do not spawn with that biome visible so they help with starvation very early on when you are pinnned down due to game settings i.e. if you play max settings and just start wandering around a forest biome you will die as soon as Z start spawning so your priority is getting defences up and not hunting food, enter sham sandwich.

Originally posted by Green777:

Dont be a fool you can use the grass all the time. As for plastics yes a few items made in the workbench but often wastes other resources,eg flashlights more often than not you find a few inside tree trunks

Take a chill pill. No need to be rude. I agree grass is useless later in the game. Just because you have heaps of hours played doesn't entitle you to act like a ♥♥♥♥.

[gamerhelligon]

I save all my shamwiches and when I get chem station, I make moldy bread, then turn it inot antibiotics.....I have a hard time getting science leveled up so I collect a ton and craft it all at once....good science points right there....but if running low on inventory space....those are the first things to go along with paper.

Only down side is I sit with the chem station open and then walk off and do things around the house due to needing to have a station open while something is being made to get the exp.

[Zhaylin]

I rarely find moldy bread so I'm thankful for each and every sham sandwich I find. I'm well stocked on antibiotics, but that doesn't bother me one bit lol

I'm a builder so I use plastic to make lights.
The only item I would even consider thinking of as useless would be iron arrow heads. I go straight from stone to steel. But even that can be scrapped.

**EDIT**
Ah yes, paper. I could do without so much paper. I have stacks of the stuff and never ever use it. (I unlock .44 ammo, and hunting rifle ammo and that's usually about it.- I go from the bow to the mag)

[Cobretti]

Originally posted by Green777:

HOURS has nothing do do with it i made a valid point so there was no need to be sarcastic about grass, And its not useless later in the game you can use it on fires forges dah

My comment about you being rude has nothing to do with your alleged valid point and everything to do with you telling a previous poster to "stop being a fool".

Using grass on fires and forges late game when you have storage full of coal and wood..... LMFAO, you really are backpedalling now. Grass is useless late game.

You also best look up the definition of sarcasm in the dictionary if you think any comment about grass in this thread was sarcastic.

I am not here to argue about grass but I will call anyone out for being a rude ♥♥♥♥ and happily take a ban for it.

[Zhaylin]

I love the industrial lights. I use them in my tunnels. But the long ceiling lights for houses use plastic (if I'm not mistaken).

[Cake for Mumm-Ra]

Originally posted by gamerhelligon:

I save all my shamwiches and when I get chem station, I make moldy bread, then turn it inot antibiotics.....I have a hard time getting science leveled up so I collect a ton and craft it all at once....good science points right there....but if running low on inventory space....those are the first things to go along with paper.

Only down side is I sit with the chem station open and then walk off and do things around the house due to needing to have a station open while something is being made to get the exp.

You guys are talking about the green rotten sandwiches, right? How do you turn it into moldy bread?

[gamerhelligon]

Use 10 shamwiches and nitrates in the chem station, turns it into moldy bread. Take the moldy bread and tun it into antibiotics.....can't recall the recipe for antibiotics off hand but look it up in game next time you play.


Every single item you loot or collect has a use, everything can be used in a recipe or smelted....it's just if it useful to you at the time or not.

[CptnHarlock]

I collect all sandwitches - for moldy bread and antibiotics. A stack of antibiotics fetches you a good stack of coins and making all these things improves your skill.

As to grass - I use it a lot! Cobblestone frames at first and later for hay bales. people use hay bales way too little. I like building towers and on all four sides I place 3x5 patches of hay bales - short side towards the tower. They make a great escape route or a quick way down from a tower. Jumping on them prevents you from breaking a leg. Try it - you will love it. :)

The only two things that I hardly find a use for are Paper and Rotten meat. From time to time I may throw in a stack of paper in the forge and ocassionaly I use the meat for fertilizer. But the short shotgun and shells are too weak and after building a 16x16 garden the meat becomes useless.

Mind you, on a MP server I actually once killed a Z in hopes that it would drop meat (this was before you could carve the bodies) because I was dying of hunger in an overlooted server. It dropped meat, I ate it, I survived! :D

[Nightstrasza]

Originally posted by CptnHarlock:

I collect all sandwitches - for moldy bread and antibiotics. A stack of antibiotics fetches you a good stack of coins and making all these things improves your skill.

As to grass - I use it a lot! Cobblestone frames at first and later for hay bales. people use hay bales way too little. I like building towers and on all four sides I place 3x5 patches of hay bales - short side towards the tower. They make a great escape route or a quick way down from a tower. Jumping on them prevents you from breaking a leg. Try it - you will love it. :)

The only two things that I hardly find a use for are Paper and Rotten meat. From time to time I may throw in a stack of paper in the forge and ocassionaly I use the meat for fertilizer. But the short shotgun and shells are too weak and after building a 16x16 garden the meat becomes useless.

Mind you, on a MP server I actually once killed a Z in hopes that it would drop meat (this was before you could carve the bodies) because I was dying of hunger in an overlooted server. It dropped meat, I ate it, I survived! :D

Bon appetit, 10 fullness, worth it.

[Gladi8er65]

Sham Sandwiches are an aquired taste... If you lightly toast them over an open campfire then dip them in mustard, they are quite delicious.... OR use them to make antibiotics... to use or to sell.

[TeamKillingTard]

Originally posted by Cobretti:

Originally posted by Green777:

HOURS has nothing do do with it i made a valid point so there was no need to be sarcastic about grass, And its not useless later in the game you can use it on fires forges dah

My comment about you being rude has nothing to do with your alleged valid point and everything to do with you telling a previous poster to "stop being a fool".

Using grass on fires and forges late game when you have storage full of coal and wood..... LMFAO, you really are backpedalling now. Grass is useless late game.

You also best look up the definition of sarcasm in the dictionary if you think any comment about grass in this thread was sarcastic.

I am not here to argue about grass but I will call anyone out for being a rude ♥♥♥♥ and happily take a ban for it.

Grass isn't entirely useless in the late game, once you have your crafting up a bit things like bows and stone axes can be combined at a workbench to level them up to 600 quality, you need grass to do that.

Theres no need to stockpile it but having a stack on hand so you can always craft up some 600 quality axes and bows is good, there still usefull items even in the late game IMO.