How to: Mining.

[smammered]

Hello friends.
So I am looking for ways to occupy my time during the night
In minecraft, I have a mine shaft in my actual base so I can mine during the night.
Can the same be done with this game? Can I just dig straight down and create a mine with valuable resources or does this game functions differently? As in I have to find the right spot to mine for resources or something?

[Patouski]

Originally posted by smammered:

Hello friends.
So I am looking for ways to occupy my time during the night
In minecraft, I have a mine shaft in my actual base so I can mine during the night.
Can the same be done with this game? Can I just dig straight down and create a mine with valuable resources or does this game functions differently? As in I have to find the right spot to mine for resources or something?

You could, but remember that Minecraft has no Structural Integrity system. If you dig straight down from - say the middle - of your main base, you'll compromise that base's SI if you go in either direction.

Best is to go a bit away from your main base and establish your mine there. You could also make it your Forge/Campfire secondary base to avoid screamers from ruining your main base.

[SBGaming]

Yep, you certainly can dig down, although it's not a surefire way to find resources. With that said, I've had pretty good luck finding Iron Ore under the POI's I've dug under. In my current Community Game I'm running, I found a vein of gravel at the Corner of a Forge House which has led down to a vein of both Iron and Nitrate. I expect Lead as well, as it is a Forest Biome.

One thing I'd suggest is to find a patch of gravel on the surface, dig down until you come upon a vein, and then if you get lucky, frame up the entrance to your hole up top to prevent Zombies from following you down, and use a Hatch and ladder to give yourself access, and just stay down there digging.

You may want to also "bury" your frames at ground level, so any Zombies who do sense you don't try to batter their way through frames sitting on top of the ground, which would give them access.

[smammered]

Originally posted by Patouski:

Originally posted by smammered:

Hello friends.
So I am looking for ways to occupy my time during the night
In minecraft, I have a mine shaft in my actual base so I can mine during the night.
Can the same be done with this game? Can I just dig straight down and create a mine with valuable resources or does this game functions differently? As in I have to find the right spot to mine for resources or something?

You could, but remember that Minecraft has no Structural Integrity system. If you dig straight down from - say the middle - of your main base, you'll compromise that base's SI if you go in either direction.

Best is to go a bit away from your main base and establish your mine there. You could also make it your Forge/Campfire secondary base to avoid screamers from ruining your main base.

What I'm thinking about doing is uilding a shafts directly under my base so I can access it at night. But the shafts will be say, 10 blocks down and then I will go straight out away from my base say another 10 blocks. That should be fine right? A day also, in this game, the mine won't cave in or anything on me? Haha

[smammered]

Originally posted by SBGaming:

Yep, you certainly can dig down, although it's not a surefire way to find resources. With that said, I've had pretty good luck finding Iron Ore under the POI's I've dug under. In my current Community Game I'm running, I found a vein of gravel at the Corner of a Forge House which has led down to a vein of both Iron and Nitrate. I expect Lead as well, as it is a Forest Biome.

One thing I'd suggest is to find a patch of gravel on the surface, dig down until you come upon a vein, and then if you get lucky, frame up the entrance to your hole up top to prevent Zombies from following you down, and use a Hatch and ladder to give yourself access, and just stay down there digging.

You may want to also "bury" your frames at ground level, so any Zombies who do sense you don't try to batter their way through frames sitting on top of the ground, which would give them access.

What do you mean by, bury your frames?

[HoldMyBeer]

Originally posted by smammered:

Originally posted by Patouski:

You could, but remember that Minecraft has no Structural Integrity system. If you dig straight down from - say the middle - of your main base, you'll compromise that base's SI if you go in either direction.

Best is to go a bit away from your main base and establish your mine there. You could also make it your Forge/Campfire secondary base to avoid screamers from ruining your main base.

What I'm thinking about doing is uilding a shafts directly under my base so I can access it at night. But the shafts will be say, 10 blocks down and then I will go straight out away from my base say another 10 blocks. That should be fine right? A day also, in this game, the mine won't cave in or anything on me? Haha

Yes that is fine.

[RobertW]

On a PvP server don't do this!

Your base will be visible from faar away. Mine away from your base. Mine straight down until you get what you need - don't forget enough wood frames (100 at min) to get up after mining ;-)

[SupposedExpert]

Yes, but as mentioned above don't forget about the structual integretiy aspect. we once had a trench around our base, and because we didn't address the zombies they dug into our mine and sunk our base. Was horrible but oh well kinda funny. =P



ALso don't forget that the different biomes have different main mineral veins. All have iron. But Nitrate/Coal/Lead are all in different biomes. ( Yes you can find all of them in each of them but it isn't as common )

[smammered]

10 blocks down should be far enough that I wont become detectable. When auto turrets come out I think I would put a few down in my mine as well as a precaution

[Ragequit Inc.]

Read the ingame "mining" note in the journal. Or the A15 changelog.

[redhering]

if your paying attention you can building under your base. Just make sure you have enough support. the server I play on I live in a bunker and I dug straight down to bedrock and dug out are rather large area.
I have yet had any cave ins

[Zhaylin]

I have always mined under my base. BUT: I don't mine chambers, just shafts- 5 wide, 5 tall. I place a floor, a roof, and side walls (I do this in an "X" at my ladders so I have a shaft for North, South, East and West but I tend to just make and focus on one branch at a time). I go out past my base and then start branching off further.

This gives me a great supply of stone for concrete and gives me something to do at night. Finding iron, lead etc is a bit of a crap shoot. Sometimes you'll luck out and find some ore. The easiest way to get ore, though, is to follow gravel patches.

[SBGaming]

Originally posted by smammered:

Originally posted by SBGaming:

Yep, you certainly can dig down, although it's not a surefire way to find resources. With that said, I've had pretty good luck finding Iron Ore under the POI's I've dug under. In my current Community Game I'm running, I found a vein of gravel at the Corner of a Forge House which has led down to a vein of both Iron and Nitrate. I expect Lead as well, as it is a Forest Biome.

One thing I'd suggest is to find a patch of gravel on the surface, dig down until you come upon a vein, and then if you get lucky, frame up the entrance to your hole up top to prevent Zombies from following you down, and use a Hatch and ladder to give yourself access, and just stay down there digging.

You may want to also "bury" your frames at ground level, so any Zombies who do sense you don't try to batter their way through frames sitting on top of the ground, which would give them access.

What do you mean by, bury your frames?

When you lay your frames, dig one block down first, so that the frames are level with the ground, since Zombies can't currently dig or attack down (will change in Alpha 16). If you build them on top of the ground, the Zombies can attack the frames, allowing them entry. Otherwise best they will do is wander around up top until they get bored, or you come up to play ;)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=882959624

Whatever you do, I'd definitely recommend reading or watching any tutorials about Structural Integrity in the game. Probably the best one is Max Fox's Alpha 15 Structural Integrity Tutorial.

When I mine under the base and find a decent patch of gravel/Ores, I'll start framing up supports so that no matter how much digging I do, the walls and corners of the base above will always be supported, no matter how deep I go. Probably half the time I spend mining is ensuring Structural Integrity of the mine itself and anything above it, because I'm always checking measurements and laying down/upgrading frames.

[smammered]

Originally posted by SBGaming:

Originally posted by smammered:

What do you mean by, bury your frames?

When you lay your frames, dig one block down first, so that the frames are level with the ground, since Zombies can't currently dig or attack down (will change in Alpha 16). If you build them on top of the ground, the Zombies can attack the frames, allowing them entry. Otherwise best they will do is wander around up top until they get bored, or you come up to play ;)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=8829596

Whatever you do, I'd definitely recommend reading or watching any tutorials about Structural Integrity in the game. Probably the best one is Max Fox's Alpha 15 Structural Integrity Tutorial.

When I mine under the base and find a decent patch of gravel/Ores, I'll start framing up supports so that no matter how much digging I do, the walls and corners of the base above will always be supported, no matter how deep I go. Probably half the time I spend mining is ensuring Structural Integrity of the mine itself and anything above it, because I'm always checking measurements and laying down/upgrading frames.

So are you saying to basically build metal poles and put them all around my mine shaft to keep integrity? Can you link me to his video please?

[SBGaming]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hq_HxCqgyU

What you want to do is ensure that whatever parts of your base above that you want to remain structurally stable now and in the future, you ensure that you place frames of any kind, at a very minimum at those places on the vertical axis.

Structural Integrity is calculated on the individual faces of each block, so you could have an entire Concrete and Steel Mega Structure above the base supported by nothing other than un-upgraded Cobblestone Frames deep underground. As long as none of the frames are removed or destroyed, and as long as you can trace an unbroken path of blocks all the way to bedrock at the bottom of the map you will be good. I tend to frame up the corners of whatever structure above I'm providing support for, and then put a second support pillar every 5 or 6 blocks from one.

Note: When I originally posted my screenshot, I must have not copy/pasted the entire link to my screenshot, so a Borderlands screenshot was linked to, but got that fixed... for anyone curious why a Borderlands screenshot was quoted in the response ;)

[smammered]

Originally posted by SBGaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hq_HxCqgyU

What you want to do is ensure that whatever parts of your base above that you want to remain structurally stable now and in the future, you ensure that you place frames of any kind, at a very minimum at those places on the vertical axis.

Structural Integrity is calculated on the individual faces of each block, so you could have an entire Concrete and Steel Mega Structure above the base supported by nothing other than un-upgraded Cobblestone Frames deep underground. As long as none of the frames are removed or destroyed, and as long as you can trace an unbroken path of blocks all the way to bedrock at the bottom of the map you will be good. I tend to frame up the corners of whatever structure above I'm providing support for, and then put a second support pillar every 5 or 6 blocks from one.

Note: When I originally posted my screenshot, I must have not copy/pasted the entire link to my screenshot, so a Borderlands screenshot was linked to, but got that fixed... for anyone curious why a Borderlands screenshot was quoted in the response ;)

Do you use voxel to mean 1 "block" of space? And so, im a bit confused on how to support caving in in a mine shaft. So, lets so I dig down 15 blocks, then out AWAY from my base in a single 1 block by 2 high, just enough for me to walk through to get away from my base. Now, I start digging a 5x5 shaft out. How do I reinforce the shaft so I dont get caved in on? As i dig, I put wood blocks on the outside of my shaft? so sorry, just confused.