Gun Smithing

[Nightstrasza]

Hey, wanted to know... for what is gun smithing?, leveled it up to almost 60 just to find out this is useless bcs blunderbuss is made of weapon smithing and now at day 7 being with 69 quality blunderbuss insteed of 350, does it benefit us in any way? crafting quality 346.6... to what? any gun except blunderbuss is made from parts not crafted, this perk is useless..., wish could somehow redirect all those 50+ points into weapon smithing rather than dying now from zombie horde bcs of this.

[...👑 JOST AMMAN 👑...]

BB is the only "non gun" firearm weapon in the game.
All the others use gun smithing for repair checks (mainly).

[krzosu18]

Gun smithing is also used to unlock recipes for various ammo -> So in your case yah it sorta sucks (but imho its way easier to level up weaponsmithing early on than gun smithing aka just via crafting arrows you can get it to decent level early game -> so the blunderbuss itself would benefit more from this rather than from gunsmithing (aka when we view it from perspective of starting out player ofc).
That said Blunderbuss ammo crafting raises gunsmithing so it can be used early on to level it up to a point where you could start making other gun ammo.

Well blunder is sorta useless atm (esp early game) but if push comes to shove you can try to use it if you are running low on arrows (but dont use it on dogs cuz due to low rate of reload you will be eaten alive).

well you could also use it to level up the skill in shotguns with it but imho it aint ideal situation since you can use the same powder and paper to make the shotgun shells and then use those.

In the end most ppl sorta tend to avoid blunderbuss due to long reload time and near uselesness early game which might get you killed easier than if you just used the bow (aka no need to get to close).

[YamaKami]

At 100 the blunderbuss is still useless. A poor way to gauge the gun smithing skill if nothing else. You need a bow and arrows to make use of that weapon smithing skill if you have already gotten to day 7. Gun smithing isn't for crafting guns from scratch, it's for when you are combining items on the work bench and repairing your guns. The repair skill helps with that too. You are meant to combine things on the work bench now. That is why the max level for a skill is 100 and yet you can only craft 500 quality items and the cap is 600.

You also cannot make ammo without guns smithing.


You may find this[7daystodie.gamepedia.com] helpful.

[Nightstrasza]

Yeah, but didn't know, though blunderbuss is benefiting from gun smithing not weapon smithing, if would know, would not waste level up points on it and insteed max again weapon smithing, that way would have bow 500, spiked club 500, blunderbuss 500 etc, also bow sucks against running zombies, first time trying to fight horde insteed of going into mine/tower but insteed transformed a pub into little spiked/cobble fortress with a room in center walled off with holes to shoot and connected by underground. Just wished that didn't waste those points, if it was grinded then okay but didn't grind it by making ammo, got all those levels by finding recipe books and spending all level-up points on it, that's why being dissapointed...

[Patch-Notes]

I actually didn't know that you could only craft to 500 and need to use the workbench to combine items to get above that... or get real lucky with loot (found a 600 quality pistol on like my 50th day)

[krzosu18]

Originally posted by Nightmare Moon:

Yeah, but didn't know, though blunderbuss is benefiting from gun smithing not weapon smithing, if would know, would not waste level up points on it and insteed max again weapon smithing, that way would have bow 500, spiked club 500, blunderbuss 500 etc, also bow sucks against running zombies, first time trying to fight horde insteed of going into mine/tower but insteed transformed a pub into little spiked/cobble fortress with a room in center walled off with holes to shoot and connected by underground. Just wished that didn't waste those points, if it was grinded then okay but didn't grind it by making ammo, got all those levels by finding recipe books and spending all level-up points on it, that's why being dissapointed...

Blunder wouldnt help much with running zeds due to slow reload -> aka miss or fail to stun = R.I.P (Rest in pieces).

Also at least from my point of view its a pure waste to put points into skills -> its better to spend those on perks. But ofc to each his own - if it works for you then who am i to judge :P Cheers.

[Nightstrasza]

Well, that gun looks great, everyone say it sucks, want to test if it realy sucks (was always using bow, headshoting stuff, bow 500 quality is op and cheap with only drawback of the need to reload for each shoot).

Spending points on grindable stuff is just easier, don't want to cut trees for week and craft clubs/bows and deconstruct them, that's boring, the only things that feels naturaly leveling are construction tools, mining, misc crafting... things that need to be crafted often, tool smithing, weapon smithing and gun smithing..., would never get it to 100 without grinding.

Also back to blunder sucking and using bow, this game is super easy, with 25% loot having tons of stuff even at day 50, difficulty only makes zombies more resistant, not going to make zombies run all the time bcs that would be annoying to craft spikes everywhere so... just don't want to 1-2 hit stuff with bow.

[Patch-Notes]

I had a blunderbuss once... went back to my bow and arrow real quick

[krzosu18]

Originally posted by Nightmare Moon:

Well, that gun looks great, everyone say it sucks, want to test if it realy sucks (was always using bow, headshoting stuff, bow 500 quality is op and cheap with only drawback of the need to reload for each shoot).

well it certainly sucks since even early on you can find normal shotgun or short one with relative ease thus it makes blunder sorta bad choice. In my case ive modded it out a bit so you can fire two shots before reload (in that configuration it works nicely) it does allow you some room to wiggle and is slightly nicer than a bow in a pinch) but you still feel the need to switch it for normal shotgun sooner or later.

[Nightstrasza]

Ok, the stories about game being too easy were not only true but it doesn't even need a pro to do so, zombies needed 3 hours to get past first wall and never touched second wall, only 2 crawlers got in, 1 killed from pistol, one died from spikes that were arround second room and didn't fix any block in the process, was just watching to see how long it will take them, player can just stand and fix blocks laughing at zombies not saying how brutal would be shooting zombies while they try to break in, they would even never break first wall, imagine the only dangerous zombie in this game is that police guy right or even he is useless?

[krzosu18]

Originally posted by Nightmare Moon:

Ok, the stories about game being too easy were not only true but it doesn't even need a pro to do so, zombies needed 3 hours to get past first wall and never touched second wall, only 2 crawlers got in, 1 killed from pistol, one died from spikes that were arround second room and didn't fix any block in the process, was just watching to see how long it will take them, player can just stand and fix blocks laughing at zombies not saying how brutal would be shooting zombies while they try to break in, they would even never break first wall, imagine the only dangerous zombie in this game is that police guy right or even he is useless?

imho it was way way better with gore blocks which gave the game a lot of unpredictability during the horde nights now its very easy to defend against even biggest hordes and assuming you dont fall down from your fortifications quite hard to die (unless you tend to stay in one place to get puked on by cops...).

so it would be nice to see them back in one way or the other

[Nightstrasza]

What are gore blocks?

[dominicawb]

Zombies would turn into gore blocks to let other zombies climb over them. Think World War Z.

[Patouski]

Originally posted by Nightmare Moon:

What are gore blocks?

There used to be a block made of the gooey remains of zombies after they died and decomposed. Instead of the now flat corpse and then skeleton "blocks". The gore blocks were behaving much like dirt or rocks or gravel does - a triangle-y block that zombies could climb on top of and eventually reach you if you didn't take out the gore first.

[Patouski]

Originally posted by dominicawb:

Zombies would turn into gore blocks to let other zombies climb over them. Think World War Z.

Got to it first - and yeah - like that bad movie adaptation with Brad Pitt.