OMG rotary switch HELP!

[LGalucard]

This is driving me nuts. I suck at these things. Someone tell me how to get this puzzle done!

[LGalucard]

Did it!

[Make or take]

same here...

[Mind_Ladder]

How? or did you just spin it at random til it worked. I'm always one off.

[kagai_yami]

i just kept spinning it in different directions with a purpose. if that makes any sence to you.

[Mind_Ladder]

Solved, still don't know what pattern I used, but switching them different directions seemed to do the trick.

[Val-T]

HOW?!!!!...am going crazy

[Kaldaien]

There are generally 3 different gears you have to spin around for these puzzles. But when adjusting the outer gears the inner also spin around (at a different rate). The real problem is not knowing exactly what the finished image is supposed to look like, so you wind up just roughly matching the colors and trying to match up any contours.

[dwig]

To rotate a ring completely takes the following number of steps:

inner ring: 5
middle ring: 10
outer ring: 15

When you select a ring to rotate it moves one other ring as well. The inner ring moves the middle ring, the middle ring moves the outer ring, and the outer ring moves the inner ring. The number of steps moved is the same regardless of which ring you are moving.

To solve the problem I first lined up the outer ring and the middle ring. Then I estimated the number of steps that I need to rotate the inner ring to make the whole thing line up (it was 3 going clockwise).

Lastly I wrote a system of equations. x is rotating inner ring, y is rotating middle ring, and z is rotating outer ring.

x+z = 3 (rotate inner ring by 3 steps total)
x+y = 10 (rotate middle ring exactly once)
y+z = 15 (rotate outer ring exactly once)

Thats three equations and three unknowns, so you can solve for the number of steps for each wheel. Positive is clockwise and negative is counter-clockwise...

Edit: I tried randomly spinning the wheels for a while without sucess before I resorted to algebra.

[lemp]

thx Rackhir :) solved it!

[kaffekoppen]

Ha, I knew I should have written it down, but somehow I got it right fairly quickly just spinning them more or less at random. Well I did note the patterns and try to plan it a bit.

[nobrien]

i cant interact with these types of mini games, lock picking also i get the screen that says move the mouse < > ect for maybe 2 secs then it pops me back at the chest/puzzle, i dont touch/move anything just click on the chest/puzzle and wait in 5 secs im back to the looking at it and click on it again ect.

[M.]

As for man who was excluded from 2 universities because he is dumb in algebra, can someone explain step by step how you get this system of equation?

It isn't joke) It is hard for me to convert something to formula if i can't imagine the whole process "what are we doing?" Why did we (i mean you) picked "x+y" that is actually rotating inner ring and comment it "rotate middle ring exactly once".

Actualy i am not understand why we rotate outer and middle rings once?

Sorry if this really looks for you as totally dumb question :))

[bellevue]

A very helpful person on this forum earlier posted the solution for the rotary puzzle in Calador:

middle = 1 x anti-clockwise
inner = 1 x clockwise
outer = 4 x anti-clockwise

[magna]

Początkowo opublikowane przez nobrien:

i cant interact with these types of mini games, lock picking also i get the screen that says move the mouse < > ect for maybe 2 secs then it pops me back at the chest/puzzle, i dont touch/move anything just click on the chest/puzzle and wait in 5 secs im back to the looking at it and click on it again ect.

Click on one ring, rotate it with keyboard controls.

[dwig]

Początkowo opublikowane przez magobuono:

As for man who was excluded from 2 universities because he is dumb in algebra, can someone explain step by step how you get this system of equation?

It isn't joke) It is hard for me to convert something to formula if i can't imagine the whole process "what are we doing?" Why did we (i mean you) picked "x+y" that is actually rotating inner ring and comment it "rotate middle ring exactly once".

Actualy i am not understand why we rotate outer and middle rings once?

Sorry if this really looks for you as totally dumb question :))

The system is actually kind of complicated, so your confusion is reasonable. When I said "rotate middle ring once" I meant one complete rotation so that it ends up where it started. Remember, the goal is to get all three lined up, and my starting point had middle and outer already lined up with each other. I need to move the inner ring without affecting the middle and outer ring.

You could actually guess 0 rotations for middle and outer ring and write the equations as
x+z = 3
x+y = 0
y+z =0

This is still three equations and three unknowns but you get z=1.5, which is not something that the game actually allows you to do. Setting the middle and outer ring to rotate one complete rotation was my second guess, and it gave integer solutions, which actually work.

I did not put the exact solution in because I thought others might have a slightly different initial condition where it would not work (but a different equation would). In fact, later on when I found other rotary switches I did get slightly different starting points.

In any case, the solution to the equations I wrote above is:
x = -1
y = 11
z = 4