Did people think TR2 was trash when it came out?

[p0mpous]

TR 1 is excellent, a masterpiece even. TR2 takes all of the worst parts of the games design and puts them front a centre. Why does it have so much combat? The combat is terrible, In TR 1 you spend time exploring compelling areas. In this you spend half your time is a bucket of rust.

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by smashsmack:

Tomb Raider 2 was highly regarded at the time, Tomb Raider 3 was the one to get mixed reception.

By critics, mostly. It was still the best sold game of the year even though it released in November.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by Gottkaiser Fhqwhgod:

No. Not at all.

Same here. Tomb Raider II is my favorite part. It's just excellent.

[Lanzagranadas]

Definitely no. I did feel like it had too many enemies, but even then it didn't neglect the platforming gameplay, exploration, puzzles, and overall level design quality. In fact, it added a few new mechanics and ideas on its own, and some of its levels are among my personal favorites.

Combat isn't that annoying either, provided that you save strong weapons for the harder sections. Although yeah, I imagine Pistols only challenge is going to be a huge pain in the ass in TR2.

Btw, TR2 was actually my fourth classic TR. I first played 3, followed by 4 on the PS1, only years later got a chance to play 1 and 2 on PC.

[olligo]

I noticed the same the combat is way too much in TR2 and I dont like it at all.
Some levels are pretty fun but the combat dear people..... oughhhh -.-.

Has TR3 also such a huge amount of fights?

[pythonfp]

Combat is not my thing but, frankly, the design of the levels in TR2 compared to TR1 is stellar.
From a mitch match of misaligned textures to blocky levels resembling something, at least it was a feast for the eyes.
The locations and environments are really memorable.

[Neblunoa]

Originally posted by olligo:

I noticed the same the combat is way too much in TR2 and I dont like it at all.
Some levels are pretty fun but the combat dear people..... oughhhh -.-.

Has TR3 also such a huge amount of fights?

A lot less. They preferred to replace human enemies with deadly traps. Every 5 minutes you will find a boulder trying to crush you, spike traps, quicksand, brittle floors, among others.

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by olligo:

Has TR3 also such a huge amount of fights?

TR3 has different problems. Way too many traps that force you to reload the game if you aren't perfect.

[olligo]

Originally posted by Neblunoa:

Originally posted by olligo:

I noticed the same the combat is way too much in TR2 and I dont like it at all.
Some levels are pretty fun but the combat dear people..... oughhhh -.-.

Has TR3 also such a huge amount of fights?

A lot less. They preferred to replace human enemies with deadly traps. Every 5 minutes you will find a boulder trying to crush you, spike traps, quicksand, brittle floors, among others.

Hmmmmm, I am happy that there are less enemies but feels like I have to complete TR2 first and then jump onto TR3. Sounds good yes but every 5 minutes could be too much. Sounds like TR1 had the right balance.

[nosgoth01]

TR2 is the best TR. When you say more combat I think you mean "more human enemies". TR1 has a lot of animals jumping around , jumping you from corners, jumping you when you open doors. You leave a pretty big trail of dead endangered species.

[Solzan2000]

Yea TR2 was the main one but I love TR3 as well for the difficulty.

[Marcelo Sampaio]

As far as I remember, most people back then considered TR2 the best in the series. I also remember it being VERY well received by the players and the critics.

And I don't think TR2 has that much combat. Has more than TR1, yes. But still has an amazing explorarion, with lots of secrets and lots of platforming. And in most cases we had to deal with enemies in open areas, instead of having to kill one thousand lions and a billion monkeys inside of a freaking cave!

[joridiculous]

TR2 was the best of them all.

[Tilarta]

I didn't think TR2 was that bad.
It's my favorite in the series.

[v00d00m4n]

Originally posted by p0mpous:

TR 1 is excellent, a masterpiece even. TR2 takes all of the worst parts of the games design and puts them front a centre. Why does it have so much combat? The combat is terrible, In TR 1 you spend time exploring compelling areas. In this you spend half your time is a bucket of rust.

Back then everyone was hyped and loved it. Most of us was dumb kids after all.

Now when i grew up and almost 40, looking back at TR2 i can say i dont like it as much as i loved TR1, atmosphere of isolated lonely adventure in tombs with only animals and some monster and only couple of people on rare ocassions - was much stronger than urban cities with 100500 people to shoot on ever corner. Also having just 4 weapons felt more realistic than 8 or 10 in TR2. Plus shooting was not strongest point of game and when this clunky shooting was too much it started to feel not very fun. And game became very hard, quite unfair hard at many places. Bit it was kinda cool in everything and new scenery was nice.

So it caused mixed feelings, its like Alien and Aliens, 1st is true horror, 2nd is an action with same characters, so you kinda love both in a different way, but years later realise that Aliens was good movie but not so good sequel to Alien movir. Same with TR2.

But TR2 is still ok, its TR3 that started to feel weird from very 1st level where you slider the rock and avoid shives and then getting lost in very messy level and it goes worse further in game, which started to fell like amature fan made additional levels for TR2, rathern than professional made game.

TR4 was kinda return to roots of TR1 but levels was way too expansive and required backtracking to complete puzzles and often objectives was unclear (i think many people stuck with 3 buttons and binoculars that has to be used to read sequence of buttons, you could not guess that, only hear it from someone or bruteforce everything or just do it by accident) and some deviation from older games like lack of croft manor was not good.

And Chronicles... looked like a rushed release of unused leftovers of previous games...

[Thornok]

no, TR1 was a hit, TR2 was great and also TR3.