I just finished the game and which character do you have sympathy for?

[0dds_0f_Even]

I choose Ellen & Nimdok

[Psychic Vampire]

I think Ellen and Gorrister are the ones I feel for the most. Benny and Nimdok almost got what they deserved (if anyone can possibly deserve 109 years of torture at the hands of a malevolent machine), and I suppose Gorrister wasn't entirely "innocent" as it were, but Ellen's story is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tragic. Her reliving of the assault in the elevator/sarcophagus is one of the most powerful and disturbing moments in computer game history. No wonder she hates yellow. :/ I don't know if I missed something, but she seems to be the only one who never did anything wrong.

Benny and Nimdok's stories are still great though. Ted is the only character I dislike/am indifferent to.

[0dds_0f_Even]

Originally posted by Psychic Vampire:

I think Ellen and Gorrister are the ones I feel for the most. Benny and Nimdok almost got what they deserved (if anyone can possibly deserve 109 years of torture at the hands of a malevolent machine), and I suppose Gorrister wasn't entirely "innocent" as it were, but Ellen's story is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tragic. Her reliving of the assault in the elevator/sarcophagus is one of the most powerful and disturbing moments in computer game history. No wonder she hates yellow. :/ I don't know if I missed something, but she seems to be the only one who never did anything wrong.

Benny and Nimdok's stories are still great though. Ted is the only character I dislike/am indifferent to.

Yeah I didn't care for Ted either because of his lustful past with other women but I felt for Nimdok because he had to sacrifice his jewish identity by giving away his parents to the regime a.k.a the nazis but I know what he did was wrong (I had a bit of emotions when he looked at that mirror), he had to butcher over 200 kids because he wanted to make the regime proud so that's how the eternal youth potion was made but AM somehow knew about the potion & took advantage of it to keep his torture toys alive.

I would have chose Gorrister since he was innocent the entire time but he never knew it so he would try every time to commit suicide because of guilt that he never deserved because of someone else's crimes (Curse you Edna you ♥♥♥♥♥) but I just felt more pain looking at Nimdok & Ellen's past.

I would have chose Benny but I heard enough tragic war stories so I wanted to see something different and besides he betrayed his own comrades because of a dark secret he had (I'm thinking it was cannibalism since he says he was hungry all the time, I also had my suspicion because some of Benny's dialogue says to either eat the mother or the child when your at the altar of that jungle).

[256Mini]

All of them.

[Lokidoki]

Gorrister and Ellen for me.

Originally posted by BITT3R_G4M3R:

I also had my suspicion because some of Benny's dialogue says to either eat the mother or the child when your at the altar of that jungle).

When the mother is being sacrificed at the altar, one of the options Benny gets is Can I eat her?. (I remember it so well, because it was the option I picked) There was also a scene removed from the game where Benny is shown eating an infant, graphically shows by shadows on the wall, but in the game, he simply looks around the cave an wonders where the baby is. It's possible to view the removed scene on youtube.

[0dds_0f_Even]

Originally posted by Soulicyde:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvt-yuDpfGw

Pretty disturbing with that scene.

I would say Gorrister and Ellen easily stand out. Ellen may be a bit of an arrogant person and anti-social, but, it was really out of her control what happened to her.

Gorrister, yeah he may have done some wrong. But as it turns out, it may not just all be his fault after all.

Benny was an ass to his comrades, killed all four of them and I would say the idea of him being a cannibal is plausible. There's an option where you can actually eat the rotting flesh beneath the graves. Just select "Swallow", I think and click at one of the graves. You can do it to all of them and it only decreases your spirit meter once. So, ♥♥♥♥ you Benny.

Nimdok. Once a nazi, always a nazi. It's difficult to sympathize someone who has assisted in the genocidal massacre with the regime.

Ted. I don't like guys like Ted. There's a term that describes people like Ted - manwhore. He's like the mid-point of the group that separates Benny and Nimdok on one side and Ellen and Gorrister on the other. But I have a personal distaste for Ted because I've seen and dealt with guys like him, they try swaying your girlfriends away just to sleep with them. I do like his psychodrama though, regardless.

Usually I despise Nazis but it's just heartbreaking to discover that Jews like Nimdok sacrificed their identity just to stay alive but the actions he did were really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, Benny is definitely an ass & yeah Ted is just a manwhore. I felt sorry for Gorrister too since he struggles with suicide (Many could connect with his story because lots of people get depressed or suicidal every year) thinking he's the bad guy for something someone else did but for me Ellen & Nimdok's stories hit me the most

[0dds_0f_Even]

Originally posted by A. Yeager:

Gorrister and Ellen for me.

Originally posted by BITT3R_G4M3R:

I also had my suspicion because some of Benny's dialogue says to either eat the mother or the child when your at the altar of that jungle).

When the mother is being sacrificed at the altar, one of the options Benny gets is Can I eat her?. (I remember it so well, because it was the option I picked) There was also a scene removed from the game where Benny is shown eating an infant, graphically shows by shadows on the wall, but in the game, he simply looks around the cave an wonders where the baby is. It's possible to view the removed scene on youtube.

Yeah I watched the removed scene after I beaten the game I'm sad they never kept those scenes in the main game

[Lokidoki]

Originally posted by BITT3R_G4M3R:

Yeah I watched the removed scene after I beaten the game I'm sad they never kept those scenes in the main game

I also think it's a shame they were removed, though I can understand it because they were so graphic. Overall it seems they had to tone down Bennys character a lot, like removing the fact that he was gay.

[Jaegeras]

Originally posted by A. Yeager:

Originally posted by BITT3R_G4M3R:

Yeah I watched the removed scene after I beaten the game I'm sad they never kept those scenes in the main game

I also think it's a shame they were removed, though I can understand it because they were so graphic. Overall it seems they had to tone down Bennys character a lot, like removing the fact that he was gay.

They didn't just tone down Benny, they completely changed him with only minor fragments of what his former character was. He wasn't a commander in the short story, he was a scientist. A homosexual one at that.

I really would've rather preferred it that he was the homosexual scientist myself. Because it would break a wall for gaming to include characters like that. But then again, you'd have nutcases assuming Benny's fault of character was "because he's homosexual". Oi.

[Lokidoki]

Originally posted by Soulicyde:

I really would've rather preferred it that he was the homosexual scientist myself. Because it would break a wall for gaming to include characters like that. But then again, you'd have nutcases assuming Benny's fault of character was "because he's homosexual". Oi.

I agree with you. It's admirable when games do feature characters that are homosexual without trying to write them out or tone them down. "A New Beginning - Final Cut" does it well, in the later part of the game, it turns out that the main characters son is homosexual, which he finds out by accident. But he is acceptive of it and the son is treated just like everyone else and has an important role in the story.