Crashing on Startup - Plugin Loader

[RayvenQ]

If you use Plugin Loader and have recently found your game crashing on launch, it is because PluginLoader, while still on the workshop, isn't no longer accessible through there any more due to changes.The old plugin loader from GitHub will also not work from Automaton onwards. The new version for after the Automaton update is however available here following the Automaton Update:

https://github.com/sepluginloader/SpaceEngineersLauncher

[Jack Schitt]

avaness a écrit :

Jack Schitt, Please send me the launcher.log file from the Bin64/Plugins/ folder. Ideally send it via a thread in the plugin loader discord support channel: https://discord.gg/6ETGRU3CzR

Thank you, avaness. I'm not on discord and won't go near it. How else can I get the log to you? I'll paste them here:

Launcher.log:

2023-05-17T21:12:59.8235939Z Starting - v1.0.0
2023-05-17T21:12:59.8624890Z WARNING: File verification failed, file does not exist: PluginLoader.dll
2023-05-17T21:12:59.8624890Z Plugin Loader version unknown
2023-05-17T21:12:59.8634861Z Downloading https://github.com/sepluginloader/PluginLoader/releases/latest
2023-05-17T21:13:00.3507770Z An update is available to v1.11.3
2023-05-17T21:13:18.8658506Z Updating to Plugin Loader v1.11.3
2023-05-17T21:13:18.8658506Z Downloading https://github.com/sepluginloader/PluginLoader/releases/download/v1.11.3/PluginLoader-v1.11.3.zip
2023-05-17T21:13:19.9838827Z Saving config
2023-05-17T21:13:20.0329142Z Loading plugins: PluginLoader.dll

Loader.log:
https://pastebin.pl/view/9c196b6b

[Jack Schitt]

It's really weird because there's plugins that aren't listed I've previously had enabled that are still working...even though they're not in the (blank) list of plugins. LOL
Where are they loading/working from? They even work when I'm offline so they have to be local somewhere.

[avaness]

That pastebin site doesnt load for me so I cant see the loader.log but this might be caused by an antivirus. Do you have one?

[avaness]

Also, that version of the launcher is out of date. You might want to update: https://github.com/sepluginloader/SpaceEngineersLauncher/releases/latest

[Jack Schitt]

I do have an anti-virus, of course. I don't get why plain text on pastebin won't load for you. I attempted uploading it to google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rf4x-L08Y6UOzQ05RCJ2sfUS7j6jGBO0/view?usp=sharing

I downloaded the updated one you linked. Still have the same issue where only the 16 plugins I have the dll's for locally are showing in the lists
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2978601176
but, strangely, somehow, all of the others I've enabled, that aren't in the list(s), are somehow still working in my games.

Windows defender attempts blocking the launcher from running. I 'run anyway' and my anti-virus (Free AVG) has exceptions for the entire Space Engineers folder. I checked to be sure the launcher file had an exception and it does.

I'll look into how to stop Defender from interrupting / blocking it.

[Mark F. Smith]

Windows SmartScreen just flat out refusing to allow PluginLoader. Good job MS, gotta disable it completely.

[Jack Schitt]

Mark F. Smith a écrit :

Windows SmartScreen just flat out refusing to allow PluginLoader. Good job MS, gotta disable it completely.

That could be my whole problem. Would you please share how to disable it?

[Mark F. Smith]

Jack Schitt a écrit :

Mark F. Smith a écrit :

Windows SmartScreen just flat out refusing to allow PluginLoader. Good job MS, gotta disable it completely.

That could be my whole problem. Would you please share how to disable it?

Defender settings
Application and Browser management, or something, dunno what's it in EN directly.
Reputation based protection settings.
And that should show you 4 toggles that all control SmartScreen, they all need to be off for WDSS to allow the Launcher.

[Jack Schitt]

It was worth a shot but nope! With Defender turned off it's the same.

[avaness]

The launcher log says "File verification failed, file does not exist: PluginLoader.dll" so if it's asking you to install plugin loader every time then it's because something is deleting PluginLoader.dll

[avaness]

Wait the screenshot you sent isn't of the plugin list, that only shows the enabled plugins. You have to click the + to install more

[Mark F. Smith]

@avaness
seeing that you are quite active on this topic, could you help how to setup the Loader for a dedicated server? namely ServerBlend, they have this pretty awesomee interface to directly download mods from workshop, but since plugins are kill, I have no idea how do I get all the plugins I want/need for a dedibox environment.

[Dan2D3D]

Mark F. Smith a écrit :

@avaness
seeing that you are quite active on this topic, could you help how to setup the Loader for a dedicated server? namely ServerBlend, they have this pretty awesomee interface to directly download mods from workshop, but since plugins are kill, I have no idea how do I get all the plugins I want/need for a dedibox environment.

I never used but I saw server admins, community helper on Keen Discord, saying :

>> Plugins aren't common on servers due to the security risks <<
-> Players will be able to load all sorts of "Hacks" enabling Plugin on your server, so keep that in mind.

+
Both the server plugin (on server side) and the client plugin (on the player's machine) must be installed! Using only the client plugin will not work properly.

[Dan2D3D]

I will add
-> some are already able to hack game servers, not just SE, you will open the door at large if you enable Plugin on your server.

[Jack Schitt]

avaness a écrit :

Wait the screenshot you sent isn't of the plugin list, that only shows the enabled plugins. You have to click the + to install more

[facepalm] There they are. OMG duh to me! lmao
Is there a way to get a simple list instead of the giant, difficult to search through visually, tile things? I found plugins that were cool that I like using when it was just a list. No way I'm finding random, new, cool or fun plugins with the tile layout.