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Veterans Unite!!! Let's Fix SE Together! SE Is An Amazing Game Made By Bad Devs. #SaveKeen
SE is truly an amazing game, an amazing work of art, however over the past weeks to months like many other people i've been developing a frustration and hate for Keen. I don't think even keen knows what they are doing cause with each game update/ news update they just get worse and worse.

I've spoken to Dan2D3D and the the aim is to get a lot of attention on this post and a lot of activity so that he can add this thread into his monthly report to the SE Devs to kinda "force " to come and check out whats all their problems and what they need to fix asap. use the #SaveKeen for similar posts on different platforms and let's change our reviews all to negative with a #SaveKeen and a link to this thread. Come On Guys We Can Do It We Can Make Keen Great Again! and get SE back on track

No.1 Promises
Keen has made many promises in the past that they haven't kept, we're still waiting on our weapons update that was promised, amoung many other things

it's time they actually keep those promises and quite frankly i don't care if Keen says "but we don't think it belongs in the game or will feel right in the game" idiots that's literally what they made experimental mode for!

No.2 DLC
I'm all for Dlcs but they are done so wrong in my opinion as we have seen with the industrial cockpit, control seat and at the release of frostbite there was contro about the gate, and all of this is due to super poor planning on Keen's side. also the amount of DLCs is going to get out of hand at this rate, I believe more content needs to be added to the DLC's and really Keen how much time will it take when most of what you're doing is just taking mods and slightly editing them, heck add lots more content and push dlc's out less oftenly and there will probably an increase in your sales, heck open a patroen i'm sure there are many vets that would donate each month to see the game actually get properly updated i would you'd probably make even more money then with DLCs.

If you think about the block and there is no direct replacement for it then it mustn't be in a DLC. e.g: the dead engineers that came now in frostbite there is no substitude for that so if you are a scenario creator then you are basically forced to buy it, instead there should be many variations with most in the DLC and a decent few for free. that way all blueprints are useable again by everyone because the game can auto switch the dlc blocks for the free ones.

Keen please make sure that the darn content is actually ready before releasing a DLC or update it's been with pretty much every major update/DLC there have been things that you guys stupidly released and it was pretty much broken, look at the weather effects mod in the new update like really who thought plan is a go everything is done and dusted

Things That Should Be In DLC's (help add to the list!)

  • Scenarios
  • Armour Skins
  • Player Skins
  • silly decorations like bobble heads and things in your cockpit
  • Cosmetic Blocks
  • Themed Blocked variants e.g steampunk themed blocks for everything
  • Window Tints and decals
  • Decals
  • Character Faces
  • different suit models
  • Music Packs

No.3 Free Updates
Aren't really updates anymore they are just patches because really Keen WOW! a mod for the weather which a lot of us already had WOW impressive! then to top it off here's a new planet like meh, there's 1000s on the workshop, rather add a world gen setting section to have our workshop planets generate. then lastly a new small hydrogen tank *yawn* again so many mods for this that are just as good and some that i prefer more to this vanilla one. and the past few updates have been going on like this being next to nothing of an update.

Start making this into a proper sandbox game, right now this is a building game with survival aspects which doesn't make this a sandbox game, and really there is so much that can be done with this game and you guys are out here copying mods and making like 10 block models over like 2/3 months? WTF you doing the the whole time.

Sadly each update is usually also a buggy mess and so many people can't play so please do some proper testing, heck let the public tests run longer so that we can even assist.

Things That Could Be In Updates (help add to the list!)
  • Planetary Pirate Bases
  • Planetary bases from economy faction (raidable ones)
  • needs such as food and water, sleep
  • new thrusters
  • human npc
  • actual faction simulation
  • more NPC ai and raiding
  • atmospheric Drag and Reentry
  • plane/jet physics
  • Missing Armour Slopes

No.4 Bad PR
As most of us know keen has the very very bad pr and it doesn't seem like they really care, on steam they only reply to positive comments and don't bother with critisicm or negative comments which is highly unprofessional and just a ♥♥♥♥ move.

They should actually tell us what is going to be in the update instead of trying to create a lot of hype over nothing, what reason did we have to hype over the new update, nothing we had weather, we had small hydrogen tanks and we have so many planets like triton, Keen tried to make hype over the DLC and that's where their mistake lies because they actually basically announced a DLC not an update they just named the update and the DLC the same thing to hide their tracks.

Keen makes more failures than sucess
Let's be real what game hasn't failed from Keen, oh yeah this one but it's on a downward spiral. and did they make bad games? no the games are awesome, but Keen keeps abandoning games leaving them in unfinished states and robbing their customers and loyal fans. MW got abandoned, ME got abandoned, and who's to say they wont abandon their "top secret project" well if they do i can tell you this much it will be abandoned when its in EA. I sure as hell won't be buying their next game, they should actually offer a discount or something on it for all the ME owners that got screwed over.
Last edited by VampireOfDeathMoon; Mar 30, 2020 @ 2:02am
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Valen Mar 27, 2020 @ 2:24pm 
I support these comments. 520 hours in game since June 2014. #SaveKeen
Last edited by Valen; Mar 27, 2020 @ 2:25pm
Originally posted by Valen:
I support these comments. 540 hours in game since June 2014. #SaveKeen
thanks for reading it, i know it's quite a lot but this is what we need

For Space Engineers!!! For Keen!!! Let's spread the word and get as much activity on this post as we can
Last edited by VampireOfDeathMoon; Mar 27, 2020 @ 2:27pm
Major. Ray Cist Mar 27, 2020 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Valen:
I support these comments#SaveKeen
+1
Lystent Mar 27, 2020 @ 4:39pm 
Quality feedback, but I am skeptical if it'll do any good here, or even on that website that they are trying to funnel all their feedback into.
Originally posted by Lystent:
Quality feedback, but I am skeptical if it'll do any good here, or even on that website that they are trying to funnel all their feedback into.
well that's why we need everyone to chip in and spread this thread #SaveKeen because they will come and check on it and what everyone says if we get enough activity going, so it will be better than the silly website they are running
Last edited by VampireOfDeathMoon; Mar 27, 2020 @ 4:45pm
Killiberke Mar 27, 2020 @ 5:20pm 
For updates, how about finally adding some of the missing basic blocks?

Like some of these:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1939935505
Or these:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1937888528
Surely that can't be too hard?
Originally posted by Killiberke:
For updates, how about finally adding some of the missing basic blocks?

Like some of these:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1939935505
Or these:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1937888528
Surely that can't be too hard?
lol that will be literally copy and paste for them but it is a good addition that we've been begging for for years so i'll add it to the list, thanks so much lets get #SaveKeen spreading!
yellow51 Mar 27, 2020 @ 5:41pm 
I agree with everything this thread says. And mind you, this is coming from someone who has 2700+ hours in SE since February of 2015.
Last edited by yellow51; Mar 27, 2020 @ 5:41pm
Originally posted by Gopher:
I agree with everything this thread says. And mind you, this is coming from someone who has 2700+ hours in SE since February of 2015.
I feel the new comers feel ripped off cause they just bought the game now there are basically no updates (like what i said at no.3) besides the dlc's which is a little understandable but some of them take it a bit far, then the vets feel like we have been muted, the devs don't care, basically this whole post
Nastaros Mar 27, 2020 @ 6:17pm 
sometime i wonder if they are just trying to cash grab the more they can to fund another project maybe
Last edited by Nastaros; Mar 27, 2020 @ 6:17pm
Originally posted by Nastaros:
sometime i wonder if they are just trying to cash grab the more they can to fund another project maybe
thought so too until they dropped ME, cause i expected the cycle to continue on with ME
DragoF1sh Mar 27, 2020 @ 6:54pm 
I agree with this post, although I am more irritated by the fact that the bugs have gotten out of control. My favorite scripts no longer work and can't be fixed until a future update and playing the game without running into unexpected behavior is nearly impossible (we still clip through terrain randomly).
Mordicon Mar 27, 2020 @ 7:05pm 
+1
Originally posted by Mordicon™:
+1
awesome awesome! let's get this going for Clang! for SE! for Keen! and for us!

Originally posted by DragoF1sh:
I agree with this post, although I am more irritated by the fact that the bugs have gotten out of control. My favorite scripts no longer work and can't be fixed until a future update and playing the game without running into unexpected behavior is nearly impossible (we still clip through terrain randomly).
yeah i chose to leave bugs out as a main thing cause this is SE, and this is Keen (just touched on it at no.2) we're talking about even they at least know that their game has a lot of bugs that needs to get fixed, and if they don't well then let them work on a cure for corona cause it's will be amazing how we got this far.

come on let's all #SaveKeen
TotalAbyss Mar 27, 2020 @ 8:56pm 
Fix for AMD CPU and GPU users. That would be nice, I dont want to go out and shell out 150ish dollars for a gtx 1050 TI when I have a 600 dollar card in my pc that cant run this game.
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