Braking issue with pedals?

[moparhippy420]

So, my setup is a mixmatch of brands. G29 base, moza pedals, vnm shifter and various other gear. What im struggling with is it seems like, even with abs on, the slightest touch of the brakes put them on 100% and im locking up.

The only thing ive found in the menus as far as adjustments is the outside deadzone, which i have adjusted from the default 95 all the way down to 20, which is the lowest, and its made zero difference. Under input it dont seem to detect any of my gear by name, but i was able to remap everything no problem.

It almost seems like its treating my pedals just as controller inputs, like the triggers on a controller. Im not sure. Anyone else have this issue or know of a fix? It makes properly braking pretty much impossible.

[Rasluka]

I think other Forza's had this problem too, it doesn't detect your pedals unless they go through your wheelbase first, like they would on console (because they can't be bothered with PC).

If you've got them plugged into a USB hub, try plugging them directly into your PC, some people say that works.

Hope it works, because this was my fear about getting this game since i have separate pedals too.

[moparhippy420]

Originally posted by Rasluka:

I think other Forza's had this problem too, it doesn't detect your pedals unless they go through your wheelbase first, like they would on console (because they can't be bothered with PC).

If you've got them plugged into a USB hub, try plugging them directly into your PC, some people say that works.

Hope it works, because this was my fear about getting this game since i have separate pedals too.

I never had this issue with FH5 or FM7, so im not sure if its a werid thing with this game or what. I get the feeling alot of things are gonna be coming in a *day 1 patch" on official launch. Or so i hope anyway. I dont remember off hand, but i believe the other forzas had calibration settings for your wheel and pedals (like every other racing game) and this one dont. There is zero calibration setting or menus at all.

Again, im not sure if this a game thing, something they intend on fixing on launch, an issue cause im mix matched or what, but i find it odd that none of the sim racing channels especially that have reviewed it have seem to mention this issue.

[moparhippy420]

Originally posted by Rasluka:

I think other Forza's had this problem too, it doesn't detect your pedals unless they go through your wheelbase first, like they would on console (because they can't be bothered with PC).

If you've got them plugged into a USB hub, try plugging them directly into your PC, some people say that works.

Hope it works, because this was my fear about getting this game since i have separate pedals too.

Oh and something i forgot. When i unlocked racing brakes for a car, i bought them so i could adjust my brake pressure in the tuning menu. I played around with the settings and at around 70% brake pressure, it feels better. Not "fixed", trail braking still isnt happening, but more like a band aid to whatever the real issue is.

[iShadowLTu]

Outside deadzone set to 20% is your problem.... wtf are you doing
Inside deadzone always 0%, outside deadzone always 100%.

[moparhippy420]

Originally posted by iShadowLTu:

Outside deadzone set to 20% is your problem.... wtf are you doing
Inside deadzone always 0%, outside deadzone always 100%.

It was set to 95% initially. Went to 100, adjusted down all the way to the lowest. It actually made zero difference. The reason why i changed it is because in the description it says with the outside deadzone that the higher it is the less input you need to apply full force to the brakes. That was the in game description.

So, my thought process in that is ok, if i lower it i will have more pedal travel and give before hitting full lock, vs hitting full lock with maybe 2% pressure applied. So, thats "wtf im doing". Going by what the game itself said. And even then it made zero difference no matter where the slider was.

[aka_John_Caesar]

I'm having the exact same issue with trail breaking and sweeping corners that require breaking. Straight line breaking no issue. So trying to trail break, putting on maybe only 10% break with maybe 15 to 25 degrees of steering input and the back of most cars will just slide out.
Running no assist with sim steer, 0/100 deadzones, running G920 wheel and pedals.
No idea how to fix it, can maybe remedy a little with tuning but not a fix and can't drive stock cars and have fun.

[moparhippy420]

Originally posted by aka_John_Caesar:

I'm having the exact same issue with trail breaking and sweeping corners that require breaking. Straight line breaking no issue. So trying to trail break, putting on maybe only 10% break with maybe 15 to 25 degrees of steering input and the back of most cars will just slide out.
Running no assist with sim steer, 0/100 deadzones, running G920 wheel and pedals.
No idea how to fix it, can maybe remedy a little with tuning but not a fix and can't drive stock cars and have fun.

So after resetting my brake zones to 0/100, it randomly got BETTER after a restart. There seems to be a thing that after changing any settings in this game, it dont take effect until after a restart.

Im not saying thats what did it, or if it was a random bug that went away or what. I honestly have zero idea. I say BETTER because trail braking, and any real kind of accuracy with your brakes is still basically nearly impossible/non existant, but its better. I get its not a "full sim" but the braking still feels way off then it should, but is now managable if not inconsistant.

[T10Yaachts]

Hey, sorry you are having difficulty using your wheel set up in game. While this issue is quite specific, we do have some resources to help you get the best experience possible which I have linked to below. At the Forza Support site you can also set up a ticket for system specific advice from our specialists.
https://aka.ms/FMWheelGuideSteam
https://aka.ms/FMWheelSupportSteam

Note: I have used the "Mark as Answer" function to make sure that everyone coming to this thread for advice on Wheel/Pedal finds their way to the Forza Support resources. But I want to acknowledge that this is not an answer to the original post. If we do have any updates on this issue specifically I will update here.

[moparhippy420]

Originally posted by T10Yaachts:

Hey, sorry you are having difficulty using your wheel set up in game. While this issue is quite specific, we do have some resources to help you get the best experience possible which I have linked to below. At the Forza Support site you can also set up a ticket for system specific advice from our specialists.
https://aka.ms/FMWheelGuideSteam
https://aka.ms/FMWheelSupportSteam

Note: I have used the "Mark as Answer" function to make sure that everyone coming to this thread for advice on Wheel/Pedal finds their way to the Forza Support resources. But I want to acknowledge that this is not an answer to the original post. If we do have any updates on this issue specifically I will update here.

These links are good for basic info, but I think the biggest issue is both the implementation of wheel support, or at the very least support with mixed brands, and the lack of any kind of wheel configuration options, where you can properly calibrate your gear in game, to this game. Many other games, including i believe past forzas, have this, not sure why its missing on here.

[bambam1984]

got the same Problem if i break the wheels block instant but i put ABS on that is not the best soulution but it works for know ... never had a problem with other forza games too

[EAX]

Hey i figured the root cause of the issue.

Under Driving Assistances set ABS to OFF entirely. The ABS is adding a giant deadzone on your brake pedal, idk why but this is a game breaking bug, had the same issue and was hella confused because deadzones are configured to 0 and 100, as any device with more than 3% should be considered a broken device and shouldnt be used anyways.

Very unfortunate to see that Turn 10 hasnt fixed it almost an entire year after.

Im running a Fanatec GT DD Pro (official PS5 wheel), so its a complete set, its supported by the game, so basicly the game beeing at fault and buggy.
Also it doesnt have FFB profiles, the ones the game ships with are just 100% values, they are unusable to begin with and its extremly frustrating to ever configure FFB in any game, this should NEVER happen in any company, that you ask a customer to setup profiles.

Thats why Gran Turismo 7 is such an amazing title and far more successful, their stuff just works out of the box and beeing perfectly configured straight up. All they ask is a compatible device and you are fine. That is a good customer treatment to begin with, everything else is just mediocre service.


Update: Hitting down the Brake fully before racestart fixes the issue.
Looks like its reconfiguring itself