Lossless Formats Soundtrack?

[Pixieking]

Hi. :)

I know Steam Music doesn't currently support much outside of MP3s, but is it possible to have alternate versions of the soundtrack? Flac, for instance? I'm not saying do away with the MP3 version, just add extra (lossless) formats, that we can play through other media players until Steam Music supports them. I suppose the OST will be available through Bandcamp, but still... Lossless makes the difference to me buying it on Steam, or waiting til it's released elsewhere.

Thanks for your time. :)

Edit:

Gone for the non-soundtrack version for now. Given the .flac is available elsewhere, I've got my fingers-crossed that it'll make its way to Steam, so until then... :)

[murla]

Nøstalgia, are you talking about Steam-version of the soundtrack?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/107104/

Includes the Bastion Original Soundtrack with music by Darren Korb in MP3 format, an hour-long album featuring two bonus tracks not heard in the game.

[Nøstalgia]

引用自 murlakatamenka：

Nøstalgia, are you talking about Steam-version of the soundtrack?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/107104/

Includes the Bastion Original Soundtrack with music by Darren Korb in MP3 format, an hour-long album featuring two bonus tracks not heard in the game.

Huh. Go figure. I always thought the Steam Version was lossless. Must be that my version is from the Humble Bundle... oh well, that's a pity :(

[OverKill]

I'd love for FLAC to be available.

[Garudin]

引用自 robomagon：

Buy a decent pair of cans and you'll notice the difference between lossless FLACs and lossy MP3s right away.

This isn't even half the truth most people couldn't even tell the difference if given a blind test.

Outside of that it fully depends on how the music was recording and the fact is lots of stuff isn't recorded in a way there would be a difference.

[darkspir]

FLAC is not a waste of space. It lets me choose if I want to make my own MP3 out of it without any quality loss due to the additional conversion. So, why should I do that? Maybe because I want my MP3 with a specific bitrate? Like 128 or 64 kbit? Or 192 or 256 kbit? Or maybe you don't want a constant bitrate at all and go for variable bitrate?

And yes, I knew a guy who put all his MP3s down to 64 kbit. He burned them on a CD and had a discman that was able to play MP3 files as well. He said if he does that he gets tons of hours of music on a single CD. I pointed out that MP3s with that low bitrate will have a lower sample rate as well resulting in a very poor quality. He laughed and told me "Well, what's the matter with sound quality, it's punk music anyway."

...and now I feel old. Thank's guys. :/

[Pixieking]

引用自 darkspir：

FLAC is not a waste of space. It lets me choose if I want to make my own MP3 out of it without any quality loss due to the additional conversion.

See, I wrote out a whole argument supporting .flac, but I threw it all away. Why? Because the above says it all better. Regardless of if some people can hear the difference or not, lossless is just that - lossless - and for those whose priority is above all sound quality, it is just fundamentally better than lossy (MP3), which is known to discard data to reduce file-size.

引用自 darkspir：

I pointed out that MP3s with that low bitrate will have a lower sample rate as well resulting in a very poor quality. He laughed and told me "Well, what's the matter with sound quality, it's punk music anyway."

Which is why I want lossless for the Transistor soundtrack. From the snippets I've heard, it sounds fantastic - lush and glossy - and to just have MP3s of it? Urgh. It's like having MP3s of Mozart or Beethoven. Sure, it's possible, but why would you?

引用自 darkspir：

...and now I feel old. Thank's guys. :/

You and me both. :(

[Garudin]

This is a video more about analog vs digital but it goes into bit rates and such so it also gives good insight into MP3s vs FLAC

http://www.xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml

[Æthere]

I really hope this is available in FLAC. If not, I guess I'll just purchase the physical soundtrack as well. I would rather not purchase the soundtrack twice, but I have the extra money, so it's not too big of a deal.

[Garudin]

引用自 =EGC= Aether：

I really hope this is available in FLAC. If not, I guess I'll just purchase the physical soundtrack as well. I would rather not purchase the soundtrack twice, but I have the extra money, so it's not too big of a deal.

I don't know about FLAC being offered through Steam but they are offering it through their own site and it's the same price there, it's also 15 bucks for the CD there too if you want to go that route.

[Æthere]

引用自 Garudin：

引用自 =EGC= Aether：

I really hope this is available in FLAC. If not, I guess I'll just purchase the physical soundtrack as well. I would rather not purchase the soundtrack twice, but I have the extra money, so it's not too big of a deal.

I don't know about FLAC being offered through Steam but they are offering it through their own site and it's the same price there, it's also 15 bucks for the CD there too if you want to go that route.

I'll probably go the route of the physical soundtrack if I need to. It's always nice to be able to listen to music in your car.

[dHeX ⛤]

引用自 Boss ♥♥♥♥♥：

Flac is a waste of space.

Clearly some people just can't hear the pureity of flac, those people are fine with MP3, even though MP3 sounds bad.

[Jinx]

It really varies on the quality of your sound equipment, your own hearing range, the quality of the encoding, and the quality of the original source recording used. I mean, there are plenty of albums on CD (especially from the 90s) that sound like crap.

imo 320kbps MP3s can sound pretty great, and are probably good enough for my hearing/system. But I certainly like having FLAC available, if only for future listening on better equipment maybe.

You can actually get a physical CD on their website, too.

[Æthere]

引用自 Jinx：

It really varies on the quality of your sound equipment, your own hearing range, the quality of the encoding, and the quality of the original source recording used. I mean, there are plenty of albums on CD (especially from the 90s) that sound like crap.

Pretty much this. I listen to my music in FLAC format, and I can tell the difference. However, I can only tell the difference because I've listened to FLAC for a while now and have the equipment to take advantage of a lossless format. Completely agree with the source recording quality statement, too. I can't listen to some of my music because the overall quality of the recording is just so bad. So it's a bit of a double edged sword.

[Knight Lamune]

引用自 robomagon：

Buy a decent pair of cans and you'll notice the difference between lossless FLACs and lossy MP3s right away.

*Raises hand*

I'm in no way an audiophile. I've even lost part of my hearing range due to age and extensive firearms use as a youngster. But even I can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crust.

The loss is noticable on a decent stereo setup, too. It's just that a lot of folks don't care. Youtube is the new HD. Though to be fair modern encoding is getting really good... hardly anything less than what was already lost in digital to begin with. It's nowhere near as bad as MP3s from years ago.

I'll be getting the CD off the SuperGiant store.