Will they remove the Always Online ♥♥♥♥ DRM?

[☧ Voievod]

If they want an increase in sale?

[class101 [OLED deck]]

Increase in sales ?they have it already, it is called Denuvo, ppl buy the game because they can't crack Denuvo protected games

proof : https://m.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4805du/crack_status_denuvo_games/

Denuvo increases sales whether you small knowledge of the computer security agree or not

[Con]

No, get over it. Its not a big deal just play the game, dont like it dont buy it.

[Mosquito Senorito]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Con:

No, get over it. Its not a big deal just play the game, dont like it dont buy it.

A bit of a harsh approach, but yeah, they likely won't remove it. I have no idea how bad it is, honestly: I had no issues with it, and have no way of knowing if a lot of people really have constant disconnects, or if it's the minority yelling so hard.
Blame is on square enix though (IMO)

[☧ Voievod]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Con:

No, get over it. Its not a big deal just play the game, dont like it dont buy it.

Corporatist ♥♥♥♥♥ detected

[Catnipz0r]

No, they won't.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-24-hitman-online-saves-issue

[Dweller Beyond the Threshold]

Square Enix didn't remove it from JC3 as far as I know, so I don't think it's leaving this game.
Disconnect would be a minor issue if they can improve the servers stability. What worries me the most is what would happen in a few years when the servers are no longer maintained or simply shut down. We would be left with a barebone game with almost nothing to do.

[Dweller Beyond the Threshold]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από class101:

Increase in sales ?they have it already, it is called Denuvo, ppl buy the game because they can't crack Denuvo protected games

proof : https://m.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4805du/crack_status_denuvo_games/

Denuvo increases sales whether you small knowledge of the computer security agree or not

this is not a proof of anything. Where does it say the sales have increased because ppl can't crack these games? How do you know that these pirates will simply NOT play these games at all?
BTW I've read that some of these denuvo games have been cracked, ROTTR for example. And even if it's just a rumor, these games WILL be cracked one day. Denuvo is not meant to prevent pirates from EVER cracking the game, merely to delay the process long enough so some impatient ppl may buy the game instead. But you shoud provide ACTUAL PROOF showing an increase in sales before insulting anyone.

[Peek]

It wouldn't get removed.

[Ariton]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Simsimsim:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από class101:

Increase in sales ?they have it already, it is called Denuvo, ppl buy the game because they can't crack Denuvo protected games

proof : https://m.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4805du/crack_status_denuvo_games/

Denuvo increases sales whether you small knowledge of the computer security agree or not

this is not a proof of anything. Where does it say the sales have increased because ppl can't crack these games? How do you know that these pirates will simply NOT play these games at all?
BTW I've read that some of these denuvo games have been cracked, ROTTR for example. And even if it's just a rumor, these games WILL be cracked one day. Denuvo is not meant to prevent pirates from EVER cracking the game, merely to delay the process long enough so some impatient ppl may buy the game instead. But you shoud provide ACTUAL PROOF showing an increase in sales before insulting anyone.

You are right, I usually download games and then buy them if I like them. I wanted to download Just cause 3 but because it has stupid denuvo i will just simply not play it and will not buy it.

[dinosauriac]

Well there's two separate annoyances here, both of which could be viewed as "DRM" but only one of which is advertised as such.

There's the Denuvo crap, which has a bad reputation but hasn't really been the cause of any serious problems, acting as their anti-tamper rights management mechanism.

Then there's the requirement for being always connected to the servers while playing a singleplayer game and not being able to see your unlocks for said singleplayer game without being connected. As far as I know, Denuvo doesn't require you to be always online? This is a separate issue, a design decision, and a bad one at that. Transparently included by square enix to try and reduce piracy by making the "richest" experience be one that's connected to their servers. One can only hope that the continuing backlash will make them relax or remove this annoying as hell setup.

[Rogue]

Denuvo actually trigger if you install game on too many different PCs. Search hitman steam forum about codefusion.

[ChoGGi]

Hmm I notice I have a few Denuvo games, what's the bad reputation? it seems fine to me (compared to some earlier ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRM).

[Dweller Beyond the Threshold]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ChoGGi:

Hmm I notice I have a few Denuvo games, what's the bad reputation? it seems fine to me (compared to some earlier ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRM).

In addition to what has been said, some people have reported that it can modify things on your PC without permission, or do other stuffs that some consider as violation of privacy. No idea if it's true.

[BOT Cecil]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Con:

No, get over it. Its not a big deal just play the game, dont like it dont buy it.

No offense but you're an ignorant moron. If you think it's good practice to get sent to main menu upon disconnection with no retry option IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME then you're a sad individiual and you deserve your fate.

[UncleYar]

Well they lost a sale with me (and another for Just Cause 3 if it indeed has always-online). I thought companies had learned by now that this is just offensive to customers in a single-player game. Learn from Ubisoft who stopped doing it instead of being the next geniuses to implement it, please.

Regarding the encryption that Denuvo seems to implement (not sure this is the same thing as the always-online requirement TBH), it has a pernicious side-effect: modders can't hack the executable for modding purposes, like the wonderful Script Extender team for Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 did, allowing most of the best mods to exist. It's not only technically hard to break the encryption, but highly illegal at least in the USA.

It's sad to see a company trust nebulous analyses about theoretical "lost sales" instead of actual feedback from their dedicated customers.