Mortar Carriers?

[Dad]

People have wanted player controlled artillery for a long time, but the maps are too small for self propelled artillery to be anything more than poorly armored tank destroyers. So I suggest maybe adding mortar carriers. Mortars have a much shorter range than howitzers and can be used as indirect fire support.

[Foxtrot39]

Aren't the premium rocket tanks filling that role?

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

Aren't the premium rocket tanks filling that role?

Well the key word there is premium, and I imagine this would be more like a light version of the artillery upgrade with it's own line. It would be neat if, in the context that Gaijin adds mortar carriers, other players can ask for a location to be bombed and the mortars would be given a assist to aiming for that area.

[Foxtrot39]

Think they said something about being able to use tracted artillery canon, nothing i can confirm

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

Think they said something about being able to use tracted artillery canon, nothing i can confirm

Well that still comes down to the problem that it will still be a poorly armored TD because any howitzer will still not have enough drop to be used as artillery. The same howitzer that provided support to troops miles away, is the same one that was cut down and stuck into a tank.

[Foxtrot39]

Yet they said no to tank with arty canon

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

Yet they said no to tank with arty canon

The M101 howitzer, which was used by the Canadian military until 1997, was mounted on a few variants of the sherman. To be exact, the 105 mm variants.

[Foxtrot39]

You don't have a fire arc the canon shoots rather straight foward

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

You don't have a fire arc the canon shoots rather straight foward

That's what I'm saying, the artillery vehicles can't be used as artillery.

[Foxtrot39]

Its because it can't be used as arty that it was added, killing enemies from across the map hidden behind a building is a clear no gaijin said it

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

Its because it can't be used as arty that it was added, killing enemies from across the map hidden behind a building is a clear no gaijin said it

Mortars don't work like howitzers. Mortars work by firing in a high angle, not a flat angle.

[Foxtrot39]

High angle = can shoot from behind cover and kill without even getting out of cover, they said no to this

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

High angle = can shoot from behind cover and kill without even getting out of cover, they said no to this

but can't shoot from close angle and can't get into direct fights. Also it really just depends on the aiming style. If it's like WoT than yeah it'll be sniping people all day, but if the targeting system is based off the already existing aiming system, it'll take skill and teamwork to use properly.

[Foxtrot39]

Even then :

-Arty won't be able to hit a target because its too hard
-Require a system for arty aiming or it will be mostly unusable
-Katyusha isn't going to be added because it couldn't fire on frontal facing enemies, any arty with that issue wouldn't even be taken into consideration
-Would be the goundforce bomber, just free kills for anyone who spot it, and fight with unreliable weaponary

I am personaly not against the idea of arty but the amount of work/change, and resulting gameplay change isn't pointing into ist favor, they could make a entire game mod section to allow them (for AB/RB/SB) but they have first to add them, and they said it isn't going to happen

[Dad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sheogorath:

Even then :

-Arty won't be able to hit a target because its too hard
-Require a system for arty aiming or it will be mostly unusable
-Katyusha isn't going to be added because it couldn't fire on frontal facing enemies, any arty with that issue wouldn't even be taken into consideration
-Would be the goundforce bomber, just free kills for anyone who spot it, and fight with unreliable weaponary

I am personaly not against the idea of arty but the amount of work/change, and resulting gameplay change isn't pointing into ist favor, they could make a entire game mod section to allow them (for AB/RB/SB) but they have first to add them, and they said it isn't going to happen

-Teammates could call out aiming coordinates and the rounds itself could work like the artillery mod with fragments
-not talking katyusha's because it has the same problem of howitzers of too long ranged
-current AA, especially us and german, is also easily killed. most can be killed with Mg's

I don't thinkadding in mortars would require ludicrous amount of work/change. More or less, it would require adding in mortar physics, modeling a slightly changed model of aldready existing vehicles and a way to allow allies to cal out spots for bombardment. The mortar carrier is a support cehicle and would need teamwork to be used to it's best.

[Foxtrot39]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Qberticus:

The mortar carrier is a support cehicle and would need teamwork to be used to it's best.

That's issue N°2