Plane spawn killing

[ravioli]

Just played a rank 3 match where 5 planes were spawn camping anyone that spawned. Really effective to win the realistic battle, but nobody could spawn. They spawned immediately and just dominated the entire game. It's not fun or realistic. We didnt even have time to set up any SPAA because the second we spawned all 4 planes went for you. You can't defend against that.

[magazine2]

Hi, this sometimes does happen when the team has full map control and air superiority. Ground vehicles have a spawn protection timer to give them a chance, but what other ways would you look to help this situation, if any? Please feel free to leave your thoughts.

[LtCOL.Ghost]

Originally posted by magazine2:

Hi, this sometimes does happen when the team has full map control and air superiority. Ground vehicles have a spawn protection timer to give them a chance, but what other ways would you look to help this situation, if any? Please feel free to leave your thoughts.

actually ground vehicles in my experience are not protected from aircraft when they spawn in only from other ground vehicles, i have been bombed as i spawned in during a match but maybe that was patched recently.

[Nubs McShouty the 2nd]

Originally posted by LtCOL.Ghost:

Originally posted by magazine2:

Hi, this sometimes does happen when the team has full map control and air superiority. Ground vehicles have a spawn protection timer to give them a chance, but what other ways would you look to help this situation, if any? Please feel free to leave your thoughts.

actually ground vehicles in my experience are not protected from aircraft when they spawn in only from other ground vehicles, i have been bombed as i spawned in during a match but maybe that was patched recently.

yeah that's not true at all, what IS happening is that the spawn protection voids the moment you even turn or move at all, so you need to not touch WASD if you know someone is about to do a run on you.

[Freza]

simple solution, not single spawn point but spawn zone along the map edge/corner

[Torn_Apart]

Originally posted by Freza:

simple solution, not single spawn point but spawn zone along the map edge/corner

Honestly a great suggestion.
I've made it myself in the past.

[Freza]

And of course there will be no reply nor action from Gaijin, they just want to frustrate players to shift them towards buying premium. But I'm not an idiot to send money to corporation that do not listen to players wishes nor want to make game more fun and balanced.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by ☜Nubs McShouty the 2nd☞:

Originally posted by LtCOL.Ghost:

actually ground vehicles in my experience are not protected from aircraft when they spawn in only from other ground vehicles, i have been bombed as i spawned in during a match but maybe that was patched recently.

yeah that's not true at all, what IS happening is that the spawn protection voids the moment you even turn or move at all, so you need to not touch WASD if you know someone is about to do a run on you.

Moving is okay. Consider it like the way ammo restocks on a capture point, small movements work fine without triggering the rearm to reset. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they recycled the same mechanic to affect spawn protection as well. Point is, you can rotate your hull to help you aim without spending your spawn protection.

Spawn protection does work against planes though. If you're being hunted by 4-5 planes and they're circling spawn, that typically means they have nothing else to hunt, meaning you've already lost. However, if you do still have multiple planes up and you spawn SPAA, first rule is not to shoot the plane actively shooting you if you still have spawn protection up. Instead, look for the next plane ready to strafe. Once you know spawn protection is about to end, get to cover. Be it buildings or whatever, get away from spawn as soon as you can move. Limit the number of planes that can attack you at once. Try to find every active plane you can and try to mentally track their locations as they fly. Always prioritize the next plane that might strafe, but if you can spare the shots consider baiting them by shooting elsewhere.

Depending on the specifics, you can always fight back and most pilots are dumb enough to give you more advantage than they should. Take advantage of that.

[Riggnarok]

I see spawn campers a lot in AB, Not 5 at once but normally you have 1 or 2. It is really quite bad honestly; It could happen even if you had to take off from the airport every respawn. It used to happen a lot in WW1.

Am I defending spawn campers, no. There is nothing worse then spawning in 6 seconds in, and your shot down. If you want to discourage spawn camping the players need to be further apart making it more difficult for those types to get back to the zone.

What I find worse is the constant uptier in matchmaking. I don't mean -1.0 or +1.0 BR I mean tier 2 planes matched regularly vs tier 3, and so on. It might smooth out the horrid matching prop planes vs a team of jets when your at tier 4. If it matched you only in your tier maybe an option box to click so you don't see tiers higher then yourself or lower? It would slow down the time to find a match but I would so use that as still a new player

[LtCOL.Ghost]

the comment i had made at the time in this post was in relation to spawning in as a bomb landed at the spawn i had not moved nor had the time to touch the keyboard, the bomb detonated and my tank was destroyed. since then i have not seen a repeat incident however that does not mean it does or does not happen only that i myself have not seen it happen.