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2 Girls 1 Cup 2023年4月28日 9時50分
Pantsir S1 to OP
The following text is a copy of the Dev- Team reply from 6. march 2023:

The War Thunder development team reacts on the hottest topics of discussion of the upcoming Sky Guardians update.
We noticed the concerns of the players about a possible imbalance due to the introduction of the Pantsir-S1 surface-to-air missile system into the game and will try to answer some questions about its operational modes details.The introduction of the Pantsir-S1 was planned due to the fact that the 2S6/2S6M1 Tunguska SPAAG is significantly inferior to the competition in terms of the combination of missile plus radar efficiency and has some of the worst statistics among all top tier SPAAGs in the game.Some players also believe that instead of introducing Pantsir-S1, it was worth introducing the TOR-M1 or TOR-M2 systems. However, according to the game statistics, TOR-M1 is also one of the efficiency outsiders in terms of efficiency and simply can’t help to solve the issue of the late Soviet anti-aircraft lineup. The TOR-M2, both in terms of the number of missiles and, according to our research, in terms of the manoeuvrability of missiles, outmatches the Pantsir-S1 at most distances. Its missiles equipped with dual-mode solid-propellant rocket engines maintain cruising speed for a long period of time and provide an overload tolerance of up to 35G. At the same time, the Pantsir’s 95Ya6 missile moves by inertia for most of its trajectory. At a distance of 8 km the missile is inferior to the 9M331 missile of the TOR-M1 in terms of G-tolerance, and at extreme distances the 95Ya6 overload drops to a poor 5G, which may provide sure kill of only non-maneuvering targets such as UAVs.The speed characteristics and flight time at distances up to 10 km of the 95Ya6 missile are generally identical to the VT-1 missile, with significantly less available overload tolerance.Players are also concerned about the possibility of the azimuth radar to operate in some radar modes at high elevation angles which certainly is an undeniable advantage. But the TOR-M1 radar, which is already present in the game, has an elevation coverage up to 64 degrees! In addition, we are conducting additional research on the capabilities of the radars of other anti-aircraft systems presented in the game, and if additional information is found, we will specify their capabilities in the game.We were puzzled by players' concerns about the Pantsir’s tracking radar, operating in the microwave range, which is currently unable to be detected by the radiation warning systems. However, as practice shows, the telethermal search and track devices are the most effective tracking system in the top ranks, and the majority of SAM vehicles in the game are already capable of stealthy locking on target. In addition, the microwave target tracking radar of the TOR-M1 does not statistically provide any superiority over competitors in the game.Also, we are monitoring concerns about the possibility of countering SAM SPAAG with such long-range missiles, but we believe that the transfer of missiles to the adjusted SACLOS physics will solve the problem, limiting the ability to hit high-speed targets at a high heading parameter or altitude. In addition, anti-aircraft guided missiles with semi-automatic command to line of sight are very sensitive to manoeuvre, and a minor trajectory change at high speed may be enough for any aircraft for an anti-missile manoeuvre.
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3borg 2023年4月28日 14時17分 
Because the Tunguska was bad and under-performing they nerfed it, only to add a new AA above it. That's the stupidest thing I've ever read, am I missing something or are Gaijin really this disconnected from the community?
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2 Girls 1 Cup 2023年4月29日 0時47分 
Looks like that. In addition they put the Tor M1 on the same battlerating (11.7) with Pantsir S1.
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JuX 2023年4月29日 2時20分 
Gaijin being delusional is nothing new.

Completely glossing over the fact the reason TOR-1 is not an issue cause it's missile launch and travel is even more visible then AIM-54A. Which is to say it REALLY stands out to the naked eye. While Pantsir is completely undetectable.

There was no reason not to have given TOR-1 to russia instead. It would have still provided them anti-air capabilities they were lacking. But wasn't overpowered to their liking to be added for russia. Not to mention the tank literally already exists in the game.


Last time i played top tier the Pantsir fired missile at me, the moment i spawned in a jet. Accidentally evaded the missile as i adjusted course with hard turn. Had no idea missile was launched. Didn't see it travel to me and didn't know the missile existed until it got too close to me and made a noise.

At that point i decided, screw top tier.
最近の変更はJuXが行いました; 2023年4月29日 2時21分
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