Strv 122A & Strv 122B PLSS

[Jaskajopuli]

Why does it not have the Splpprj m/95 ammo? It should according to different sources and documents. But the CV 90120 has it?

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Because then it would be a horror for other nations to face. Which I wholeheartedly support, but alas, Gaijin does not.

[Jaskajopuli]

Well the other nations already have 500-600 pen. Why should the swedes have 400+ only?

[dLFN]

The Strv 122 would be too strong with Slpprj m/95. It gets to have the best armor in exchange for less pen. DM33 is good enough anyways, Slpprj m/95 would only let you pen Leclerc turret cheeks and help you slightly against stuff like an angled T-80BVM.

[DanielExde]

Messaggio originale di dLFN:

The Strv 122 would be too strong with Slpprj m/95. It gets to have the best armor in exchange for less pen. DM33 is good enough anyways, Slpprj m/95 would only let you pen Leclerc turret cheeks and help you slightly against stuff like an angled T-80BVM.

"too strong" BVM has 2x the armor of 122, but it can have a better shell? how is that justified? nothing the ERA on BVM is stupid, it have destroyed a rod right in the side. and the tank makes very little spalling.
but this is fine?
this argument is the stupidest people bring up.

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Messaggio originale di DanielExde:

Messaggio originale di dLFN:

The Strv 122 would be too strong with Slpprj m/95. It gets to have the best armor in exchange for less pen. DM33 is good enough anyways, Slpprj m/95 would only let you pen Leclerc turret cheeks and help you slightly against stuff like an angled T-80BVM.

"too strong" BVM has 2x the armor of 122, but it can have a better shell? how is that justified? nothing the ERA on BVM is stupid, it have destroyed a rod right in the side. and the tank makes very little spalling.
but this is fine?
this argument is the stupidest people bring up.

Alright so here's a counter point; which I'm sure the stupidest people also bring up, have you noticed that the armour on that thing gets reduced for consecutive shells in the same general location? Because y'know, ERA. Does the armour on the Strv 122 get reduced for consecutive hits to same location in WT?

I mainly play Sweden. I would love for it to have the round it should, but unlike some souls, I recognise that it would be unbalanced. Even compared to a BVM. Personally, I think it should be added because minor nations should be stronger, because they have less stuff they can use at top tier, but unfortunately it would not be balanced.

And the argument it would have a worse round than the BVM is false. It would have a significantly better round than the BVM. Also; if you check the armour, it still doesn't match the Strv 122, so y'know, might want to re-evaluate your position <3

[DanielExde]

Messaggio originale di Fluffy Bucketless Pocket Dragon:

And the argument it would have a worse round than the BVM is false. It would have a significantly better round than the BVM.

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[Jaskajopuli]

Messaggio originale di Fluffy Bucketless Pocket Dragon:

Messaggio originale di DanielExde:

"too strong" BVM has 2x the armor of 122, but it can have a better shell? how is that justified? nothing the ERA on BVM is stupid, it have destroyed a rod right in the side. and the tank makes very little spalling.
but this is fine?
this argument is the stupidest people bring up.

Alright so here's a counter point; which I'm sure the stupidest people also bring up, have you noticed that the armour on that thing gets reduced for consecutive shells in the same general location? Because y'know, ERA. Does the armour on the Strv 122 get reduced for consecutive hits to same location in WT?

I mainly play Sweden. I would love for it to have the round it should, but unlike some souls, I recognise that it would be unbalanced. Even compared to a BVM. Personally, I think it should be added because minor nations should be stronger, because they have less stuff they can use at top tier, but unfortunately it would not be balanced.

And the argument it would have a worse round than the BVM is false. It would have a significantly better round than the BVM. Also; if you check the armour, it still doesn't match the Strv 122, so y'know, might want to re-evaluate your position <3

I cannot agree with this statement, 122 usually has fire multiple shoots on a target before taking it out while out tanks can one tap you and because of your huge weakspots u can be disble by one shot so your armour ain't that useful..

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Messaggio originale di Jaskajopuli:

I cannot agree with this statement, 122 usually has fire multiple shoots on a target before taking it out while out tanks can one tap you and because of your huge weakspots u can be disble by one shot so your armour ain't that useful..

Or you know, you could just aim. Just a thought. The Strv 122 has the best armour, compared to competition under most circumstances. Giving it the round it should have would mean it now has the best armour, now has a super round, and is pretty bloody mobile. As it stands now, it works, and the armour lets you survive if you're not a moron.

Giving it the slppjr m/95 is overkill for now.

[Jaskajopuli]

Messaggio originale di Fluffy Bucketless Pocket Dragon:

Messaggio originale di Jaskajopuli:

I cannot agree with this statement, 122 usually has fire multiple shoots on a target before taking it out while out tanks can one tap you and because of your huge weakspots u can be disble by one shot so your armour ain't that useful..

Or you know, you could just aim. Just a thought. The Strv 122 has the best armour, compared to competition under most circumstances. Giving it the round it should have would mean it now has the best armour, now has a super round, and is pretty bloody mobile. As it stands now, it works, and the armour lets you survive if you're not a moron.

Giving it the slppjr m/95 is overkill for now.

The leopard 2a6 has it and everyone else. Oh so it is skill issue now that it is 50% chance the driver of the enemy tank eats my hole shell. It comes down to that you want make the game unbalance and unfair because who knows? Also the Soviet tanks has the best armour.

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Messaggio originale di Jaskajopuli:

The leopard 2a6 has it and everyone else. Oh so it is skill issue now that it is 50% chance the driver of the enemy tank eats my hole shell. It comes down to that you want make the game unbalance and unfair because who knows? Also the Soviet tanks has the best armour.

Better armour on the Swedish Leopards. And soviet tanks really don't have the best armour. You lot are just sooking because "Oh I'm so sick of having to aim; heaven forbid I need to learn to play". I main Sweden. Russian tanks are not hard to kill. You don't need a better round.

[Jaskajopuli]

Please stop bullshitting everyone.

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Mate, I ain't. If anyone is, it's you who's too ♥♥♥♥ at the game or reading basic figures (or understanding the mechanics of how specific armour types work [ERA explodes, just an FYI]) who's intent on painting things the way you want to see them. I personally think it'd be awesome for it to get the round. But it is more armoured, and it already performs well enough. Russian tanks aren't hard to kill.

[Jaskajopuli]

If you're here trying to convice anyone here that this game is comparable to the real life counter part, gives us a break. Most tanks are artifical nerfed or buffed. I don't have trouble playing the Sweden's against any nation. just feels under performing when you hit enemy ammunition all it does is turning orange and other flaws but you're main Sweden you should know all these right? But instead u insist that i should become better player while there is many issues surrendering the game. Sweden aren't over preforming and could have use of this ammunition but you're probably just here to argue against this because u don't want more balance battlefield.

[zocki5]

Messaggio originale di Fluffy Bucketless Pocket Dragon:

Messaggio originale di DanielExde:

"too strong" BVM has 2x the armor of 122, but it can have a better shell? how is that justified? nothing the ERA on BVM is stupid, it have destroyed a rod right in the side. and the tank makes very little spalling.
but this is fine?
this argument is the stupidest people bring up.

Alright so here's a counter point; which I'm sure the stupidest people also bring up, have you noticed that the armour on that thing gets reduced for consecutive shells in the same general location? Because y'know, ERA. Does the armour on the Strv 122 get reduced for consecutive hits to same location in WT?

I mainly play Sweden. I would love for it to have the round it should, but unlike some souls, I recognise that it would be unbalanced. Even compared to a BVM. Personally, I think it should be added because minor nations should be stronger, because they have less stuff they can use at top tier, but unfortunately it would not be balanced.

And the argument it would have a worse round than the BVM is false. It would have a significantly better round than the BVM. Also; if you check the armour, it still doesn't match the Strv 122, so y'know, might want to re-evaluate your position <3

Should you really be a Sweden top tier main then I am surprised at the amount of BS coming from your comments here. I bet that you are in rage after learning that both 122s just received slpprj m/95 with Update Danger Zone.

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Messaggio originale di zocki5:

Should you really be a Sweden top tier main then I am surprised at the amount of BS coming from your comments here. I bet that you are in rage after learning that both 122s just received slpprj m/95 with Update Danger Zone.

Aight, so how much are you gonna pay me for the lost bet? And my comments aren't claiming bs, it's pretty easy to verify in game, which y'all seem intent on not doing. But carry on sooking. I'm happy it got the better round, my argument was it wasn't necessary. However, now it has it is one of, if not the best, mbt in game.

Secondly, how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sad do you have to be to necro a post about this?