The Object-279 is at the wrong BR.

[gaming]

Seriously, this thing is much too strong for its BR.

Great gut, great mobility, great armor. It completely annihilates anything it touches, moves from one spot to the other spot in the blink of an eye, and aborbs any shot you shove into its mouth. It's just not fun to have in your game.

Now don't say I am just mad about being killed by it, I am a USSR player who mainly plays realistic battles, so I don't have to break my head about this thing. But I have played against this tank when I played arcade a few times, and holy sh*t, this tank is absolutely overperforming.

This tank needs a serious BR increase, and an increase from 8.3 to 8.7 is not going to help. This tank would fit well in 9.0 where there is actually tanks that can beat it, and a downtier is not going to be a guaranteed win for this tank.

Currently, this tank can, and often will, be downtiered to 7.3. Now tell me, how is it in any way fair for this tank to be fighting 7.3 tanks? It absolutely steamrolls any tank it meets, and the only reliable weakspot is under the gun, which is a quite hard spot to hit.

Of course there are tanks that can absolutely wreck it, for example the Object-120, but that doesn't mean this tank should survive nine out of ten encounters.

Most of the time this tank is my ally, but it's not too fun either when your enemies are being effortlessly stomped into the ground by one or multiple Object-279s.


Since this tank is quite new, I hope Gaijin realizes this tank would fit into BR 9.0 a lot more than it fits into 8.3.

[Freak648]

AGREE 100% its far too OP for the tanks it plays against

[Strange Bread]

ohhh.....which mode do you play? AB or RB? In RB 8.3 is the best place for 279, becouse if you will put him higher, 279 wil suffer every match (it already suffer when gets downtiered). Any HEATs, APFSDS and ATGMs easilly penetrate it's armor, while surviveability isn't very high. Also 279's pentration may will be not enough for top tanks. I played 279 about 30 matches and got uptiered only 5-6 times. Other matches I had to play with 9.0-9.3 tanks. and it's very difficult becouse armor already can's stop anything. And finelly. I've spent whol real time week to get that tanks, so I (aand other people whi have grinded 279) deserve som good tank. But in AB, perhaps, it can be placed at 8.7. And it's armor has weakspots where you can penetrate even from 6.7 guns. For example, german 88mm KwK 43 can pen 279 in commander's hatch, turret ring and down part of hull from side.

[Strange Bread]

At 9.3 Object 279 will turn into useless crap, just food for Leopard 2K, XM-1, AMX-40 and other pre-top tanks. Man, you just haven't played 279. ATGMs, HEATs and APFSDs are really deadly for him. If you have serious issues with him in arcade - load HEATs on T-62, T-55A and T-10M. 2 shots, or even 1 will be enough. Shoot to the turret ring - there is very weak armor.

[gaming]

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

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You clearly haven't read my post, have you? Read it again, this time fully.


Also, your argument "I spent a whole week on it so I deserve an op tank" is incredibly stupid. You want an unbalanced game just because you grinded you a** off? That's the same thing as saying you deserve an op tank for paying money.

[Strange Bread]

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

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You clearly haven't read my post, have you? Read it again, this time fully.


Also, your argument "I spent a whole week on it so I deserve an op tank" is incredibly stupid. You want an unbalanced game just because you grinded you a** off? That's the same thing as saying you deserve an op tank for paying money.

I didn't say "op" I've said "good", but I see you really want to turn 279 into ♥♥♥♥, just becouse he easilly destroys 7.0-7.3 tanks. Lol man it's normal when higher BR tank is more powerful than less BR one. The same story is about 279. At 7.3 yes it's very OP, but at 8.3 there are a lot of vehicles capable to destruy him, so at 8.3 279 is just a strong tank. But at 9.0-9.3 279 is nearly crap, similar to other 8.3 tanks at 9.3. at 9.3 279's armor just disappears. there lefts only post-pen damage and mobility, but 9.3 (MBT-70, XM-1, T-72A, M60A3TTS, Kpz--70, and others) have actually better mobility and much better penetration. So you want put 279 to 9.3 just to stop it's OP'ing with 7.3 right? HAh, tell me how to fight 10.3 Leo 2A5, M1A2, Strv 122, Leclerc and T-80U on Obj 279? This is unique tanks, so it can be better than common vehicles due to it's innumerousment. And there your arguments are stupid. Play some better, load HEATs and 279 will not be problem. For example I can kill 279 in front from M46 (7.0 tank) using it's HEATs. But yes, 279 is difficult to kill with APHEs. But it was intended in 1957 to be fully protected from APHEs. Even if you have only the, you can still kill 279 in weakspots.
"That's the same thing as saying you deserve an op tank for paying money." - not the same thing. Becouse to pay money can do anybody, but 279 is cannot be earned anymore. And it needed TIME not money. You can earn money, but can't earn time.
The only thing I see - your text is full of emotions. There are already not so much 279s in matches anymore (RB) usually 2, maybe 3 of them per whole team. 279 is OP only if it's driven with a well skilled player. In bad hands any tank is ♥♥♥♥, and any enemy tank is OP.

[gaming]

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

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Know what's funny? You're saying it's op when it gets downtiered to 7.3 (Which it gets 90% of matches) but you're saying it would get completely destroyed if it were to be up-tiered to BR 10. See the problem here? Now imagine how the 7.3 tanks feel when they get up-tiered (90% of matches) to meet this op triops looking thing!

You only care about being able to destroy everything. A tank much lower than your BR is being up-tiered to your BR? You're happy to see easy kills.

You get up-tiered and get absolutely destroyed? HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? I WAS TIERED OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE WHERE MY ARMOR IS COMPLETELY UNPENNABLE?


Do you see the problem in your way of thinking?

[Strange Bread]

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

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Know what's funny? You're saying it's op when it gets downtiered to 7.3 (Which it gets 90% of matches) but you're saying it would get completely destroyed if it were to be up-tiered to BR 10. See the problem here? Now imagine how the 7.3 tanks feel when they get up-tiered (90% of matches) to meet this op triops looking thing!

You only care about being able to destroy everything. A tank much lower than your BR is being up-tiered to your BR? You're happy to see easy kills.

You get up-tiered and get absolutely destroyed? HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? I WAS TIERED OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE WHERE MY ARMOR IS COMPLETELY UNPENNABLE?


Do you see the problem in your way of thinking?

I see the problem in your way of thinking. I mean already at 9.3 279 is "completely destroyed", but still can survive and make 1-2 kills. At 10.3 even this is impossible. Thermals, crazy mobility, crazy penetation and inpenetratable for 279 armor. About 7.3 tanks. I've already said that 279 is very dangerous enemy, but IT'S KILLABLE!!!
"Which it gets 90% of matches"- what **** ??? Why my 279 usually gets to 9.0-9.3 (7 of 10 matches)??? That's only you think it gets uptiered cuz didn't play 279. What a comfort zone are you talking about?! I don't understand that! Getting to 9.0-9.3 I have to use ALL OF MY SKILL to kill anybody. 1 time tried to play arcade on 279. - and I was one-shotted with a BMP-1's ATGM just a few minutes after a start of match. Which BR BMP-1 has???? 7.3??? Later I played american 7.3 with T32 and M46. And have meet 2 279s in front. First one has came from shelter showing me his side. I've shoot in his turret ring and do you know what happened? - It was one shot. Another one stayed in 400 m front of me ( I was on T32) I've shoot in commander's hatch - and it also was one-shot. Also I've bounced his 130mm shot in me XD. If we look at 7.7 tanks - it becomes much better - there are a lot of tanks with powerful HEAT's which usually one-shot 279 (Leopard 1, STB-1, M103, M60, T-54 1951 and others). I don't see that 279 is impossible to kill. Even 6.7 Tiger 2 can kill him XD. You just need to know where to shoot. Anyway if you have veeery poor gun which is ♥♥♥♥ even for 7.3 - you can try to break 279's barrel and then try to ignite his engine 3 times - you will kill him.

[Strange Bread]

T32 has only APHEs with very bad pen of 220mm at 0degrees and 67 at 60 degrees

[gaming]

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

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I never said it's invincible, shooting below the barrel is a kill most of the time. I am saying that it is absolutely destroying at its tier. If you need to use all of your skill to get a kill in this tank, you're doing something wrong.

Also,

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

T32 has only APHEs with very bad pen of 220mm at 0degrees and 67 at 60 degrees

[Strange Bread]

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

damm lot of text

I never said it's invincible, shooting below the barrel is a kill most of the time. I am saying that it is absolutely destroying at its tier. If you need to use all of your skill to get a kill in this tank, you're doing something wrong.

Also,

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

T32 has only APHEs with very bad pen of 220mm at 0degrees and 67 at 60 degrees

I ment 8.3 279 needs all skill to kill 9.3 XM-1 while 7.3 T32 needs all skill to kill 8.3 279. Logicly, isn't that?
Similarly 9.0 Kpz-70 is absolutely destroying at 8.0-8.3 due to it's crazy mobility, fire rate, penetrtion and etc

[gaming]

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

I never said it's invincible, shooting below the barrel is a kill most of the time. I am saying that it is absolutely destroying at its tier. If you need to use all of your skill to get a kill in this tank, you're doing something wrong.

Also,

I ment 8.3 279 needs all skill to kill 9.3 XM-1 while 7.3 T32 needs all skill to kill 8.3 279. Logicly, isn't that?

So you're saying you don't need skill to play at 8.3? You just perfectly described the Object-279! So now let's put it to 9.0 so it requires skill to play.

[Strange Bread]

It's a fckn food chain.

[gaming]

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

So you're saying you don't need skill to play at 8.3? You just perfectly described the Object-279! So now let's put it to 9.0 so it requires skill to play.

Are you idiot or what? I've said absolutely different thing dummy!!!

Now you're insulting.

[Strange Bread]

Originally posted by TheGamesGamer:

Originally posted by Strange Bread:

Are you idiot or what? I've said absolutely different thing dummy!!!

Now you're insulting.

Becouse I have a really strong emotions, becouse you don't understand (or maybe don't want to understand) my words. You turned them in absolutely different way.
I say it's a food chain, where every next in BR tank easilly destroys previous. So take your 7.3 tank and put it on 8.3 and try to fight 9.3 pretops - you will know what do you want to do with 279.

[Strange Bread]

what 7.3 are you talking about? I mean which tank?