Why the F80 is Trash

[chicks99]

Uptiers

- Almost 20k SL repair cost
- Goes against enemies with cannons even though the F80 is equipped with guns from a br of 2.3.
- Bad Acceleration and goes against enemies with better accel, speed, and capabilities.
- Food for R2Y2s, I literally spawn in climb and a R2 says Sup ♥♥♥♥♥ and shoots me down even though im taking evasive manuvers
- Team has a low braincell count, its a allied team anyways
- ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ JAPANESE BIAS
- IT SHOULDNT GO AGAINST R2Y2S
- HOW AM I GONNA PLAY IF I AM THE FIRST TO BE SHOT DOWN BECAUSE IM IN A TECHNOLOGICALLY INFEIROR PLANE?
- GAIJIN HAS NO BALANCE

[chicks99]

Now im going against british hackers who just ate hundreds of my rounds to his wing and his wing didnt even break

[Futuristic Hexagon]

I'm just going to pick this apart.

Originally posted by chicks99:

Uptiers

- Almost 20k SL repair cost

Can't argue there, no early jet should be higher than 11000 SL max, except for maybe the Hoho Dorito, and even then, I view the repair cost as a rather crappy way to balance something.

- Goes against enemies with cannons even though the F80 is equipped with guns from a br of 2.3.

Not all cannons are created equal. 50 cal isn't that bad at all, you get API, and then on top of that, you still have a good ROF and muzzle velocity. Makes taking down opponents easy. Also, stock, soviet cannons are, or at least were notorious for being serious spark thunder.

- Bad Acceleration and goes against enemies with better accel, speed, and capabilities.

As someone who spaded the MiG-9, I find this statement laughable, aside from dive and wingrip performance, I can easily get outperformed by most everything in early Tier V. You're pretty much equal with these guys in almost every way but fire power (the MiG can get some pretty good explosive kills, but the F-80 is easier to aim and rips apart other aircraft.)

- Food for R2Y2s, I literally spawn in climb and a R2 says Sup ♥♥♥♥♥ and shoots me down even though im taking evasive manuvers

It is a plane known for doing it. Yeah those guns can bite. Best you can do is catch one off guard. They are kill able.

- Team has a low braincell count, its a allied team anyways

Try soviets, if the runway is perpendicular to the airfield, you'll have at least 5 clowns do a turn to the middle of the runway, lawn mow, and attempt to do a vertical headon against anything with 50 cals, only to get sniped from 1.5km away. And it doesn't get any better with the MiG-15 either.

- ♥♥♥♥ING JAPANESE BIAS
- IT SHOULDNT GO AGAINST R2Y2S
- HOW AM I GONNA PLAY IF I AM THE FIRST TO BE SHOT DOWN BECAUSE IM IN A TECHNOLOGICALLY INFEIROR PLANE?
- GAIJIN HAS NO BALANCE

Compression does start to get a little out there starting at 7.0. The R2Y2's problem is that it is one of many planes that gets an airstart that shouldn't, or should be at least given a far lower spawn (adding to the list types like MiG-3, for example.)

Of course I wonder if they'll remove the R2Y2 from research eventually. I mean, the only reason we have the paper jets is simply because Gaijin had a year limit for tech. Problem is just that there isn't anything appropriate to replace them with aside from cold war turboprops that the Japanese used (P-3, US-1, etc.), and they would likely easily be food for other planes if placed at that BR.

Not too sure about Japanese bias, their planes in that part of the BR bracket are still reasonable to take care of. They do have a devastating 30mm cannon at that tier though. It is the biggest thing the R2Y2 has going for it.