RNG is still garbage, the game is beyond broken.

[BANE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80iObAlB5Pw&list=PLdPcmDy5swqnxi2O0WJryUIK2TAZtJ-gC&index=2&t=0s

Every game same ♥♥♥♥.

[Blamite Delight]

Цитата допису Mr. Grinch:

Цитата допису Foxtrot39:

Ha amateur, now this is when RNG really hits the fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34iVfX1PGzQ

AP shell hits tracks, does no damage, 10/10

yeah ive had that before on numerous occasions, the need to add better hitboxes to things like return rollers and track wheels.

[xXx_420Scunth0rpe69_xXx]

Go play wot and you'll understand what a real broken rng system is. Trust me, ive played that hot rng mess for a year before switching to wt.

God i just realized you were using shrapnel rounds. Jesus ♥♥♥♥ man, i play arcade but at least i know shrapnel cant pen ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Go and educate yourself and read the descriptons on each shell type.

[Booba]

Цитата допису Scheneighnay:

Цитата допису Scuba Steve:

No.

To be fair, barrels and especially tracks should be way more fragile than they are now.
But shrapnel shells still wouldn't do anything because they're shrapnel shells.

Yes and no. In general, I'm happy with barrel-shooting. It's a frequent tactic of mine to go for the barrel when I get up-tiered and can't penetrate a tank otherwise. If my shot doesn't connect properly, it bounces. I think that is as it should be. Some proper connections still bounce regardless of course, and for some reason HFS rounds tend to just fizzle against barrels, but... Russian math and server latency I guess. Then you've got cases of Soviet tanks being able to shred a barrel in a second with their machine guns... Sorry. That just shouldn't happen. The fifties on American-esque tanks can also do it, but it takes a lot more rounds and too much time for it to be feasible outside of derpy situations.

Regardless, he didn't hit the barrel. He hit the highly angled and very trolly Stalinium shroud around the breech.

[BANE]

Цитата допису Nevu:

OP, please. Here's three different shells from a T-34 (1942) shooting at the same area of the SU-85 (the tank that killed you)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2033496589

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2033496952

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2033496777
As you can clearly see, Shrapnel and APCR rounds can't penetrate the armor at all. Meanwhile, the APHE round (the round you should be using!!!) goes through like it's nothing, even through the add-on tracks. Before you start crying about "muh RNG" on the forums, learn how the game works. As I see it, you also lack situational awareness and then proceed to cry about it in another videos.

Dude you are just being an ignorant fanboy. You do know that not every tank has aphe rounds right? So this is just an example of unreliable rng and unfair balance.

Listen, when you shoot enemy barrel or optics with the HE shell you should expect things like gun damage or gunner knocked out. If nah then why is my gun barrel is getting disabled when some small acpcr round scratches it, but enemy still can shoot no matter how man times I hit his barrel? Lets say Tiger 5.3, no angling on turret, I shoot same place, central point on the turret with my T3485 and I got 1000 different results. Armor inspector is plain bs.

IE this shouldn't bounce in armor inspector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQYfqA7yx4

[Nemull]

u failed the shot, end of the story, i managed to kill these things with the puma

[BANE]

Цитата допису Nemull:

u failed the shot, end of the story, i managed to kill these things with the puma

Blah blah, I managed to kill a Tiger III with a bicycle.

Doesn't matter, look at the focking hit cam in upper right corner, did you see how that shell went? Should pen ez but bounce and changing trajectory for about 90 degree? Bounces doesn't even work like this, all this RNG and ballistic calculations are just a complete joke.

[BANE]

It is one way or another, baliistics\physics or RNG, can't have both since one has to have upperhand in close calls. Too bad they went with RNG in this game.

[金色火焰]

Цитата допису BANE:

Цитата допису Nemull:

u failed the shot, end of the story, i managed to kill these things with the puma

Blah blah, I managed to kill a Tiger III with a bicycle.

Doesn't matter, look at the focking hit cam in upper right corner, did you see how that shell went? Should pen ez but bounce and changing trajectory for about 90 degree? Bounces doesn't even work like this, all this RNG and ballistic calculations are just a complete joke.

You used thee wrong shell. Now stop trying to tell literally everyone here they are wrong, because you believe in something that happened that is not the case.
Use this link on actual statistics of the tank, and your shrapnel shells. You were using wrong shell, it didnt pen (not big surprise) end of story dude. and yes....this tank has APHE
https://wiki.warthunder.com/T-34_(1942)#Ammunition

[BANE]

Цитата допису 红客:

Цитата допису BANE:

Blah blah, I managed to kill a Tiger III with a bicycle.

Doesn't matter, look at the focking hit cam in upper right corner, did you see how that shell went? Should pen ez but bounce and changing trajectory for about 90 degree? Bounces doesn't even work like this, all this RNG and ballistic calculations are just a complete joke.

You used thee wrong shell. Now stop trying to tell literally everyone here they are wrong, because you believe in something that happened that is not the case.
Use this link on actual statistics of the tank, and your shrapnel shells. You were using wrong shell, it didnt pen (not big surprise) end of story dude. and yes....this tank has APHE
https://wiki.warthunder.com/T-34_(1942)#Ammunition

No, on T-34 I used HE to damge his gun or gunner and no such thing happened.
IE cromwell and lots of other tanks has no APHE at all.

Please tell me, do I also use wrong shell here? It is APHE and armor inspector would mark that shot green :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQYfqA7yx4

[Illusionyary]

Цитата допису BANE:

No, on T-34 I used HE to damge his gun or gunner and no such thing happened.
IE cromwell and lots of other tanks has no APHE at all.

You can't damage crew members with HE, HE is mostly useless even for gun barrels and tracks too. Don't use it on anything other than large caliber guns such as the Ho-Ro, Sturmpanzer, KV-2 and Brummbar unless what you're shooting at is a truck with 0 armour.

Цитата допису BANE:

Please tell me, do I also use wrong shell here? It is APHE and armor inspector would mark that shot green :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQYfqA7yx4

You're using the correct ammo now, but you shot at the worst possible place to shoot. The Hetzer already has very strong sloped armour, and you fired right as he came around the corner, angling that sloped armour even more. You hadn't a hope in hell of that shell ever penetrating. You should have shot the lower glacis, which while still sloped has a lot less armour and would have penetrated.

Again not RNG, this is on you. Sloped = stronger armour.

[highfivingbears]

Цитата допису BANE:

Цитата допису 红客:

You used thee wrong shell. Now stop trying to tell literally everyone here they are wrong, because you believe in something that happened that is not the case.
Use this link on actual statistics of the tank, and your shrapnel shells. You were using wrong shell, it didnt pen (not big surprise) end of story dude. and yes....this tank has APHE
https://wiki.warthunder.com/T-34_(1942)#Ammunition

No, on T-34 I used HE to damge his gun or gunner and no such thing happened.
IE cromwell and lots of other tanks has no APHE at all.

Please tell me, do I also use wrong shell here? It is APHE and armor inspector would mark that shot green :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQYfqA7yx4

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2056590744

EDIT: I know I used the T-34-85 D5T, but that tank and the IS-1 use the same cannon and ammunition.

[Lafettie]

This guy is truly something special....

[BANE]

https://imgur.com/a/nhkqHZG

It should pen and it should kill this stupid tank 521895210896518658921642173421 times.

Even with bigger angle this would be still a focking bs, where is supposed all this energy of a focking 85mm to go? How can a shell bounce with a 90* degree direction change? Fock gayjin and their comedy physics.

Sure, things like Tiger I could bounce some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 76mm, and some stuff like Tiger II could sometimes bounce 85mm and such, but current state of things is just a pathethic game design.

[BANE]

Цитата допису Lafettie:

This guy is truly something special....:poop:

Your mommie said the same thing.

[highfivingbears]

Цитата допису BANE:

https://imgur.com/a/nhkqHZG

It should pen and it should kill this stupid tank 521895210896518658921642173421 times.

Even with bigger angle this would be still a focking bs, where is supposed all this energy of a focking 85mm to go? How can a shell bounce with a 90* degree direction change? Fock gayjin and their comedy physics.

Sure, things like Tiger I could bounce some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 76mm, and some stuff like Tiger II could sometimes bounce 85mm and such, but current state of things is just a pathethic game design.

Here's the thing, though: you don't have the same angle as that shot. Maybe the same horizontal angle, roughly, but you're much too high. You were shooting the Hetzer from a negative angle, maybe negative 3 or 4 degrees. Not much, but noticeable. In the armor analysis you're at a quite high positive angle, canceling out the slope from the Hetzer's frontal armor.

Listen, man. Not every little bad thing that happens in this game is due to RNG or bad game mechanics. Perhaps it's time to consider that maybe it's you not being as skilled as you think you are.