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magazine2  [developer] Apr 12, 2024 @ 6:01am
[UPDATED] Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2024
Hey everyone, today we’re showing you the Battle Rating change proposals for the month of April!

There’s several Battle Rating changes for aircraft, ground vehicles and naval vessels.

The changes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRdz2C08_QRD7PKxRyWWk0p722lzZsIQAwH05Ma5ACRgluyS_hMpdv0D4FWNOFFU8gkdGJEtc8fWEaA/pubhtml

Let us know your thoughts

We’re going to be reading your feedback on these changes, so please feel free to share your thoughts and any other suggestions that you may have.

The War Thunder Team
Last edited by magazine2; Apr 19, 2024 @ 6:01am
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Originally posted by magazine2:
Hey everyone! We’ve carefully read your feedback on the planned Battle Rating changes. Some of your suggestions will be implemented, and we’d also like to comment on some of your feedback separately.

Updated table here, changes in blue: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vRdz2C08_QRD7PKxRyWWk0p722lzZsIQAwH05Ma5ACRgluyS_hMpdv0D4FWNOFFU8gkdGJEtc8fWEaA/pubhtml#

We’re planning to release the changes to Battle Ratings in an update next week.

Ground Forces

The performance indicators of the 2S38 correspond to the average value at its rank, without being low or high. However like many other lightly armored vehicles, the 2S38 has significant empty areas behind the turret and hull, where hits here can create situations with insufficient or no damage to critical modules. The 2S38 will be one of the first vehicles to receive additional internal detail 7. Others will follow too, as we’ll improve the layout of internal modules, add some new modules and revise old ones in particular in the turret and turret compartment.

An increase in Battle Ratings for the M18s has been a long time coming, and even without the engine power changes, the M18s would have been raised to 6.0 in this current Battle Rating proposal. We’ve revised the changes to the Super Hellcat’s Battle rating so that the increase will only affect it for Arcade Battles (aligning it with the existing rating in Realistic Battles), without further increasing the Battle Rating in Realistic Battles.

We don’t plan to change the Battle Rating of the HSTV-L, as its current effectiveness is sufficient to remain at its current Battle Rating without being lowered or increased. We’ve looked at your feedback on this vehicle regarding its ammunition and some of its capabilities, and we’ll make a decision taking into account possible changes to these proposals.

Information about increasing the max Battle Rating for ground vehicles

In the future, we’re planning to carry out additional decompression to the top ranks with an increase in the maximum Battle Rating. These changes will be carried out along with the introduction of the Roadmap item relating to separating Battle Ratings for different modes 7, which we’re currently working on. This is because changes to the Battle Ratings for top tier ground vehicles will require changes in the Battle Rating of some attack aircraft, which’ll negatively affect their effectiveness in Air Realistic Battles if this change is made now.

Aircraft

The Spitfire Mk 24’s Battle Rating is being reduced so that it avoids having to fight against the MiG-15 and F-86, which are reducing in Battle Rating with this update.

We’ve seen proposals to instead of reduce the Battle Rating of the MiG-15 and F-86, to increase the Battle Rating of F-104 and similar aircraft instead. We’ve decided not to do this because it will not only affect the effectiveness of the MiG-15 and F-86, but will also worsen the competitiveness of the F-104 and other similar aircraft in other nations.

Other aircraft at a Battle Rating of ~8.0 now show good statistics and don’t require reduction or increase, but after the changes we’ll also closely monitor their performance.

Based on numerous comments from your feedback and after reviewing the statistics and capabilities of the aircraft, we’ve decided to reduce the Battle Rating of the G.91Y and G.91YS to 9.0 and 9.3 respectively.

We have also decided not to increase the Battle Rating of the AMX. While its good missile armament and assault capabilities make it quite effective, the performance characteristics may not allow it to fight effectively at higher Battle Ratings.

The F-5E FCU will be lowered to Battle Rating 11.0. This aircraft has good armament, however combined with its flight characteristics at its current Battle Rating, it does not have enough capabilities to effectively combat aircraft with higher Battle Ratings.

We also received a lot of feedback regarding changes to the missile research modifications branch for the Barak II. To keep you updated, in the next major update adjustments will be made to the modifications research branch for this aircraft.

Reduced Battle Ratings of aircraft from the Korean War
The main changes to the balance of aircraft in this update are focused on a reduction in the Battle Ratings for a group of aircraft from the Korean War period, as well as vehicles similar to them in terms of combat characteristics. These aircraft under the current conditions show a rather low level of efficiency, so reductions are intended to help this situation. In addition to this, some of the vehicles among them that lack missiles will no longer be able to get into battles against attack aircraft with all-aspect IR seekers. This change is intended to improve the comfort of the game and reduce the number of hopeless situations in battle.

Changes to Battle Ratings in Simulator Battles will be made in a future Battle Rating proposal.
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Desperadoscres Apr 12, 2024 @ 6:40am 
Harsh but fair, their is no nerf that I find abusive
I would have liked the M551(76) to stay at 6.7 for the lineup, but it's still very fair
Harsh, but fair
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Desperadoscres Apr 12, 2024 @ 6:41am 
Thos I think the mig 15 buff are not deserved, I would consider them the best plane of their br
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Koška Apr 12, 2024 @ 6:57am 
Most of these changes different then AA are total trash ... hellcats pushed to 6,0 while Tiger2 is comfortably sitting without change on 6,7? Superhellcat that costs 6K GE pushed to 6,7? Why? there is no point in playing it over Pershing now ... these changes looks like u asked todler his opinion : should we change AAs rating? goo goo gaa gaa ! okay u r the boss ... should we send Ostwind even lower? gaa gaaa! okey its goin ... should we push Panther D higher? bleeeeeeeh ! okay it stays where it is ...
Last edited by Koška; Apr 12, 2024 @ 7:00am
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Canadian Guitar Apr 12, 2024 @ 7:37am 
Stop squeezing the air from one part of a balloon to the other side and actually increase the maximum BR in the game.

Every two months you just slide problems around instead of actually extending the overall range in game and slotting vehicles more appropriately.

Ground BR should at least be a solid 13.0, so there is more room to appropriately separate vehicles.
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Venom Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hey everyone, today we’re showing you the Battle Rating change proposals for the month of April!

There’s several Battle Rating changes for aircraft, ground vehicles and naval vessels.

The changes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRdz2C08_QRD7PKxRyWWk0p722lzZsIQAwH05Ma5ACRgluyS_hMpdv0D4FWNOFFU8gkdGJEtc8fWEaA/pubhtml

Let us know your thoughts

We’re going to be reading your feedback on these changes, so please feel free to share your thoughts and any other suggestions that you may have.

The War Thunder Team


HellCatt with 76mm canon on 6.0, and Panther on 5.3 and Tiger II on 6.7, great april joke. :D:D:D
Last edited by Venom; Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:13am
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Akagi Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:13am 
"What if we take a compressed br and push it to somewhere else?"
- Patrick Star, 2024, Gaijin employee of the month
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Toblm Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Venom:
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hey everyone, today we’re showing you the Battle Rating change proposals for the month of April!

There’s several Battle Rating changes for aircraft, ground vehicles and naval vessels.

The changes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRdz2C08_QRD7PKxRyWWk0p722lzZsIQAwH05Ma5ACRgluyS_hMpdv0D4FWNOFFU8gkdGJEtc8fWEaA/pubhtml

Let us know your thoughts

We’re going to be reading your feedback on these changes, so please feel free to share your thoughts and any other suggestions that you may have.

The War Thunder Team


HellCatt with 76mm canon on 6.0, and Panther on 5.3 and Tiger II on 6.7, great april joke. :D:D:D
Tanks are more than guns. The Hellcats will be fine at 6.0.
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Toblm Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:35am 
7.7 seems a little big of a jump for the GRB Fox. But I understand it is where it would be played even if it was placed at 7.3 due to the location of the lineup at 7.7.
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Blyatman Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:47am 
The M18 had better get it's old penetration rates back if you're moving it to 6.0, that's absolutely abhorrent. I miss penning Tigers and Panthers frontally at slight angles.
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Blyatman Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Desperadoscres:
Harsh but fair, their is no nerf that I find abusive
I would have liked the M551(76) to stay at 6.7 for the lineup, but it's still very fair
Harsh, but fair
It should honestly be 6.3 with how often it gets one shotted, it's an M41 but slower and more cramped. If it's at 7.0 it should get HEAT-FS
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French Cat Apr 12, 2024 @ 8:58am 
Ah yes let’s lower the BRs of jets so early jets can get bullied by them. A 263 versus a Sabre? Very fair mhm. Hellcat at 6.0? Great idea, let’s disintegrate lineups. The Fox at 7.7? I like that thank you. Super Hellcat at 6.3…… uhuh you guys okay over there? Is there a gas leak or something?
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Koška Apr 12, 2024 @ 9:46am 
I feel like person who did these changes had too much of clown juice this time :D
Just checked air changes, even bigger joke then ground ... u r so lucky u mostly left russia and germany off changes because u would have another player bully strike coming :D
Last edited by Koška; Apr 12, 2024 @ 9:47am
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Mephisto Apr 12, 2024 @ 9:54am 
lol, Hipper & Prinz Eugen went up to 6.0 recently and go back down instantly ...
RENOWN remains at 7.0?
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Bob Apr 12, 2024 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Akagi:
"What if we take a compressed br and push it to somewhere else?"
- Patrick Star, 2024, Gaijin employee of the month
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julioalberto1324 Apr 12, 2024 @ 10:20am 
I knew the upgraded mobility on m18's would come at a cost.
plus, the super hellcat didnt get any upgrad and still got its BR raised.
and BMP1 with its gound hitting atgm goes to 8.0.

And 7.0 ~ 7.7 planes, be ready to suffer some more
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