Why is the Pantsir-S1 the same BR as the FlaRakRad?

[OneStraider]

Gaijin simply ruined the VT-1 missile, it is almost impossible to destroy f16s flying straight diagonally, the missile cannot maintain speed and stops turning when it is 5km away. Not to mention that it is impossible to destroy helicopters flying less than 300m from you, and the funniest thing is that if you miss a missile you have to wait for it to destroy itself before you can reload, and the Pantsir can shoot 12 missiles that can hit you from spawn and barely lose speed while turning. If a Pantsir spawns on my side when I play with my FlaRakRad I just hold J because it's impossible to compete kills.

[French Cat]

Gaijin adding vehicles that weren’t needed:

[bastion of pragmatism]

giga cope the vt1 slaps

[French Cat]

Originally posted by better:

giga cope the vt1 slaps

Does it though? When was the last time you were shot down by a Roland?

[Mizzar]

Originally posted by OneStraider:

Gaijin simply ruined the VT-1 missile, it is almost impossible to destroy f16s flying straight diagonally, the missile cannot maintain speed and stops turning when it is 5km away. Not to mention that it is impossible to destroy helicopters flying less than 300m from you, and the funniest thing is that if you miss a missile you have to wait for it to destroy itself before you can reload, and the Pantsir can shoot 12 missiles that can hit you from spawn and barely lose speed while turning. If a Pantsir spawns on my side when I play with my FlaRakRad I just hold J because it's impossible to compete kills.

And they still wont do anything about it

[Toblm]

It makes perfect sense that a missile only SPAA has better missiles at the same BR as a hybrid SPAA.

Whats the issue?

[Elijah]

Originally posted by Toblm:

It makes perfect sense that a missile only SPAA has better missiles at the same BR as a hybrid SPAA.

Whats the issue?

That its the other way around ? The FlakRakRad has only 2 missels, who are worse then the missels of the Pantsir. Which has 12 missels and rapid fire 30 mils. Plus a way better Radar.

Like, seriously, do you even play the game, man ?

I really hope that was just a badly communicated take on sarcasm.

Originally posted by better:

giga cope the vt1 slaps

This comment is a perfect example for people, who just want to use the disscusion forum as a warzone. Horrible and pathetic people.

[OneStraider]

Originally posted by better:

giga cope the vt1 slaps

Said the guy who never played a top tier game

[michel_blade]

Gaijin does not care for balance. lack of balance fuels spending, because people hope that spending money will fix the game for them. Do not hope for any improvements, this is not in their interest.

[OneStraider]

Originally posted by Toblm:

It makes perfect sense that a missile only SPAA has better missiles at the same BR as a hybrid SPAA.

Whats the issue?

What are you talking about?

[OneStraider]

Originally posted by michel_blade:

Gaijin does not care for balance. lack of balance fuels spending, because people hope that spending money will fix the game for them. Do not hope for any improvements, this is not in their interest.

As always, gaijin doing her best to get more and more money

[kY0U]

Originally posted by michel_blade:

Gaijin does not care for balance. lack of balance fuels spending, because people hope that spending money will fix the game for them. Do not hope for any improvements, this is not in their interest.

How does it equates to spend money though, literally no paid alternatives SPAA for any trees. If anything it's Russian bias.

[FkYoSht]

Like CAS isnt a cancer a top tier? Now with the vision bug fixed cas can gbu anything with impunity an they cant be intercepted (except with ♥♥♥♥ tracking guns). 2 matches now with cas loosers wiping games. We need more spaa not less

[French Cat]

Originally posted by FkYoSht:

Like CAS isnt a cancer a top tier? Now with the vision bug fixed cas can gbu anything with impunity a they cant be intercepted (except with ♥♥♥♥ tracking guns). 2 matches now with cas loosers wiping games. We need more spaa not less

You puny tank mains, suffer under our boot of CAS!

[OneStraider]

Originally posted by FkYoSht:

Like CAS isnt a cancer a top tier? Now with the vision bug fixed cas can gbu anything with impunity an they cant be intercepted (except with ♥♥♥♥ tracking guns). 2 matches now with cas loosers wiping games. We need more spaa not less

I'm not saying that pantsir wasn't supposed to be added, I was just saying that pantsir is more superior in every aspect than FlaRakRad. If the VT-1 were the same as before, it would make sense to be in the same BR.

[Foxtrot39]

Originally posted by FkYoSht:

Like CAS isnt a cancer a top tier? Now with the vision bug fixed cas can gbu anything with impunity an they cant be intercepted (except with ♥♥♥♥ tracking guns). 2 matches now with cas loosers wiping games. We need more spaa not less

Only one nation have an effective total CAS denial and there is no issue?

Remember when KA-50 spam was a thing?

With AA unable to take them down due to its missile triggering SAM proxy fuse

Their 12 Vikhr being reloadable safely on the helipad in 20s while AA limited missile supply needed to be rearmed for 2min on a killzone point

And aircraft couldn't either because it was a undogeable flying sam system unless you flew under 10m from the ground?

Causing that one nation to have permanent total air superiority on every match

Problem with your "we need more SPAA" is that there aren't

Other nation have reached the "end of the line", there are no new system to be added with SAM that are better than what we got

Because stuff like Patriot system does NOT classify as a Self Propelled AA because its a towed system made from multiple vehicle : its a static air defence not a self contained anti air system housing radar, ammo, fire control and weapon system