Object 292

[FizzyElf]

Okay seeing as the tank is going to start showing up now and given how uh... poorly it seems that players were fairing against it with the content creator early access release, I think a small bit of guidance is desperately needed.

Okay first things first, it is a T. 80. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. B. T-80B, I know that people on the forums and on youtube said the armor was awful and barely adequate for the BR, I know, I had people tell me that too. BUT, it's a T-80, you can't just lol pen it like a CV-105 or a 2S38 or anything like that, it is an MBT and the armor is still decent even at 10.7 hell some stuff at 11.0 and stock vehicles at 11.7 will struggle to get through it until they get their top rounds. I was able to drive my T-80B at 10.7 alongside my T-80U and later did the same at 11.0 with a spaded BV and U, the armor is not perfect but it is enough to shrug off rounds so please don't try to treat this like a light tank and shoot it centermass, treat it like any other T series and aim for the mantlet and lower front plate unless you know for a fact you can break the upper front plate.

Second, the gun is very scary, so please shoot for the gun or the mantlet and/or knock out the breach if you are uncertain about being able to one shot the tank. The gun is very strong and it hurts, so much like the object 120, failing to kill it in one shot can mean that the tank is still extremely dangerous and allows it the chance to horribly damage or kill you. Breach and barrel torture is your friend here, use it if you aren't certain you can take the tank out without getting hit yourself.

Third the charges for the rounds are in the turret not the hull so don't be surprised if you shoot the lower front plate and the tank doesn't instantly send it's turret into low orbit, the charges are very vulnerable to arty, straffing and autocannon fire and knocking those out will make the tank more or less defenseless even if it doesn't manage to kill the tank.

Finally, please keep in mind that like with any event vehicle, you will have an army of people who can hardly drive the vehicle let alone get kills with it, but you will also have experienced players in it and they will make very short work of your team. Even if we just look at russia for the past couple years, the BMD-4, PT-76 57 and the Moderna all had their fair share of less than ideal players and they all saw amazing results in the hands of experienced ones and especially in the latter two cases could easily turn the tide of a match, so while there will be a ton of novices driving the Object 292, please treat every 292 as if it is being driven by a competent player, because you really don't want to get blindsided, especially when a tank has two silver bullets (695 pen AP and lol pen/overpressure HE) so be careful not to get complacent, generally speaking the 292 should be about as dangerous as the T-80B so as long as you treat it as such it should be something everyone at 9.0-11.0 can deal with, and it will only really exceed the T-80 in the hands of more experienced players but it is better to be safe than sorry.

I hope this helps a little when facing off against the oncoming storm of Object 292's.

[JaNuS]

Object 292 and "balancing" in this game - i am done with this

the game was not fun before object 292 and certainly just became a even bigger joke.
anyone agrees?

[Eros]

It's broken they need to nerf the object 292
, with my leopard 10.3 I am not able to penetrate the front even with a hit from 2 meters

Also playing against Russians is always the same if they don't spawn 20 object 293 the spawn 2b2 automatic with radar

[Beverain]

Remember when Gaijin didn't want to give the M1A2 DU armor even tho 5 prototypes were built?

Only 1 object 292 was ever built because it failed field trails. and because it failed trails it has never entered production and was never put into service

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

Originally posted by Beverain:

Remember when Gaijin didn't want to give the M1A2 DU armor even tho 5 prototypes were built?

Only 1 object 292 was ever built because it failed field trails. and because it failed trails it has never entered production and was never put into service

Yes this is Gaijin logic in purest form.

[Shyue Chou]

Bye.

[Venom]

Originally posted by JaNuS:

the game was not fun before object 292 and certainly just became a even bigger joke.
anyone agrees?

Question, when did Gaijin really balance something properly? After all, Russia has been an OP nation for a long time, Germany is also in the top tier after the new Leopards. This game is about two nations on the top tier, Russia and Germany, and Gaijin doesn't solve anything... Everyone knew about Object 292 that it was absolute nonsense on BR 10.0 immediately on the first day when the statistics were known, only Gaijin didn't know that. :D By the way... Give a tank with 700 penetration, 7kg projectile, T80 controllability and good armor at 10.0, seriously? Who couldn't have known that :D:D:D But what do you expect when you have a 2s38, which in reality is AA, against unarmored targets, maximally lightly armored, and destroys everything and everyone in this game? And I could go on and on.

[Lafettie]

I dont know.Seems like you you all must be fighting the Russians for the first time on that BR. It has the same weakspots like every other Russian Tank starting from the T-72.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020948217/screenshot/2497878693360016790/

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020948217/screenshot/2497878693360017800/

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020948217/screenshot/2497878693360018957/

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020948217/screenshot/2497878693360019594/

I know that the Hangar "armor test" isnt as accurate as its in the match due to multiple circumstancial variables .... you can still pen it there in the Match just like every other Russian Tank

[tamyao]

Originally posted by Venom:

Originally posted by JaNuS:

the game was not fun before object 292 and certainly just became a even bigger joke.
anyone agrees?

Question, when did Gaijin really balance something properly? After all, Russia has been an OP nation for a long time, Germany is also in the top tier after the new Leopards. This game is about two nations on the top tier, Russia and Germany, and Gaijin doesn't solve anything... Everyone knew about Object 292 that it was absolute nonsense on BR 10.0 immediately on the first day when the statistics were known, only Gaijin didn't know that. :D By the way... Give a tank with 700 penetration, 7kg projectile, T80 controllability and good armor at 10.0, seriously? Who couldn't have known that :D:D:D But what do you expect when you have a 2s38, which in reality is AA, against unarmored targets, maximally lightly armored, and destroys everything and everyone in this game? And I could go on and on.

you forgot sweden, but sadly its been like that forever. they place a new vehicle somewhere randomly and adjust its br with the next updates until its not usable anymore

[Shyue Chou]

I have destroyed 13 of them, and have lost about 4 vehicles to them. I have also seen them in 11.7 battles.

[bastion of pragmatism]

skill issue

[Elijah]

Yea, i played it. After 6 matches i have a K/D of 23/11. Its the purest form of russian bias. You don´t need to care about armore, your own armore is still good enough to just run around and bouncybounce and even your reverse speed is good. This thing has no downsides. Heck it even has a good reload, that doesn´t get canceld by fire extinglishing.

[HerrDoktor45]

I hate to say it, but it is a skill issue. The folks who get the 292 are those that either have a lot of skill, a lot of time so are a bit better, or have to play well to shorten their prison sentence in an unspecified country /s. But I have encountered two 292s in the past two days and killed one with a JaPZK and crippled one from the side with an SdKfz 140 (BR 2.0). Personally I think there are other vehicles that need to move up BR. The 2S38 the CV 90105, and the M1128. All three can do well at 11.7, so a 10 BR is just crazy. The Vidar also needs a good BR boost. Finally the Chinese 8.7 helicopter with thermals needs to be at 10.0 or higher.

[nuke]

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

Yea, i played it. After 6 matches i have a K/D of 23/11. Its the purest form of russian bias. You don´t need to care about armore, your own armore is still good enough to just run around and bouncybounce and even your reverse speed is good. This thing has no downsides. Heck it even has a good reload, that doesn´t get canceld by fire extinglishing.

it has bad reload, bad gun handling, no thermals and is vulnurable to atgms since it has no era

i still think that the damn thing should move to 10.7, since moving it any less would still nuke the 9.0 - 9.3 matchmaker

[Bombelos]

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

Yea, i played it. After 6 matches i have a K/D of 23/11. Its the purest form of russian bias. You don´t need to care about armore, your own armore is still good enough to just run around and bouncybounce and even your reverse speed is good. This thing has no downsides. Heck it even has a good reload, that doesn´t get canceld by fire extinglishing.

No thermals
No ERA
No machineguns (coaxial or commander's)
Slow reload
Same weakspots as all Russian MBTs
Slow gun / turret traverse
Poor depression (as all Russian MBTs)

The only good thing about thing tank it's cannon, it is completely fine at 10.0 - anywhere higher and it will be outclassed by everything.

Btw, 23/11 is not a "overpowered" ratio, lmao - more like decent.

[Bombelos]

People will still cry russian bias (as it is much easier than learning) while asking to put it on 11.0 BR lmao.

Huge skill issue on their side.