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ikstarven Feb 16, 2024 @ 8:14am
m163 is unusable
at least the m42 before it has damage and german jets die from 1 hit, this bs has godawful spread only fractionally useful again head on aircraft(which most of the time gets you killed since only like 10% of your shots hit), its radar is just bs, always jumping around, why does the aim assist(and the lead marker) keep jumping around underground and above heavens when the plane is just flying in a straight like 500 meters away?

Having no SPAA since m42 to get this pile of crap is crazy, seems like its forever branded to just hunt light tanks
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ikstarven Feb 16, 2024 @ 9:36am 
because your brains cant handle any thought process other than wasting time to comment "skill issue"
Blamite Delight Feb 16, 2024 @ 9:47am 
because it's a tracking radar rather than a search radar. Debris within your field of view will also mess up the radar return signal (stuff as small as a leaf or tree branch will break the lock.) Thick cloud cover as well will also interfere with Radar tracking functionality. Another issue is if the jet you're attempting to target has chaff/flare pods, which is the most likely culprit of your target lead jumping around.
Last edited by Blamite Delight; Feb 16, 2024 @ 9:49am
ikstarven Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Blamite Delight:
because it's a tracking radar rather than a search radar. Debris within your field of view will also mess up the radar return signal (stuff as small as a leaf or tree branch will break the lock.) Thick cloud cover as well will also interfere with Radar tracking functionality. Another issue is if the jet you're attempting to target has chaff/flare pods, which is the most likely culprit of your target lead jumping around.
forgetting the radar, the cannon is trash, the bullets are slower than coax on some tanks, might as well just delete the radar because its just completely inaccurate and is defeated by a player just wiggling around slightly
Toblm Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by ikstarven:
forgetting the radar, the cannon is trash, the bullets are slower than coax on some tanks, might as well just delete the radar because its just completely inaccurate and is defeated by a player just wiggling around slightly
Its a close range SPAA. Dont spray at long ranges and expect great success. Anything over 2000m is going to be pure luck.

The radar works fine. Yes, you might need to require on occasion but the same is true for all radar. The lead jumps around because the target is maneuvering btw.

Others have summed this up well already in the thread.
Last edited by Toblm; Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:23pm
TRK Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by ikstarven:
Originally posted by Blamite Delight:
because it's a tracking radar rather than a search radar. Debris within your field of view will also mess up the radar return signal (stuff as small as a leaf or tree branch will break the lock.) Thick cloud cover as well will also interfere with Radar tracking functionality. Another issue is if the jet you're attempting to target has chaff/flare pods, which is the most likely culprit of your target lead jumping around.
forgetting the radar, the cannon is trash, the bullets are slower than coax on some tanks, might as well just delete the radar because its just completely inaccurate and is defeated by a player just wiggling around slightly
I wish I had a radar at all omg I hate the that crappy reskin the M42
ikstarven Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by Toblm:
Originally posted by ikstarven:
forgetting the radar, the cannon is trash, the bullets are slower than coax on some tanks, might as well just delete the radar because its just completely inaccurate and is defeated by a player just wiggling around slightly
Its a close range SPAA. Dont spray at long ranges and expect great success. Anything over 2000m is going to be pure luck.

The radar works fine. Yes, you might need to require on occasion but the same is true for all radar. The lead jumps around because the target is maneuvering btw.

Others have summed this up well already in the thread.
the radar lead is useless, works by ping i guess because in test drive its brilliant but in real battles the lead is straight up lying
ikstarven Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by TRK:
Originally posted by ikstarven:
forgetting the radar, the cannon is trash, the bullets are slower than coax on some tanks, might as well just delete the radar because its just completely inaccurate and is defeated by a player just wiggling around slightly
I wish I had a radar at all omg I hate the that crappy reskin the M42
at least the m42 cannons fire fast with less drop than this m163, and early german jets die from 1 hit (except that flying chip)
Toblm Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by ikstarven:
Originally posted by Toblm:
Its a close range SPAA. Dont spray at long ranges and expect great success. Anything over 2000m is going to be pure luck.

The radar works fine. Yes, you might need to require on occasion but the same is true for all radar. The lead jumps around because the target is maneuvering btw.

Others have summed this up well already in the thread.
the radar lead is useless, works by ping i guess because in test drive its brilliant but in real battles the lead is straight up lying
Works fine in battle for me.
I dropped 3 planes today in 600 rounds of ammo in under 2 mins after spawning a M163 mid match.

Now I dont like it as much the UK 8.3 SPAAs but its a 7.3 so I am willing to make allowances.
Last edited by Toblm; Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:55pm
TRK Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by ikstarven:
Originally posted by TRK:
I wish I had a radar at all omg I hate the that crappy reskin the M42
at least the m42 cannons fire fast with less drop than this m163, and early german jets die from 1 hit (except that flying chip)
Fires fast sure but with the dispersion of a toddler projectile vomiting

plus sometimes only one cannon will fire instead of both of them which is fun when your trying to take down a fighter-bomber oh and it does that A LOT

and in an upteir I haven't seen these german jets you are talking about but these early jets seem to be very sturdy as they have eaten my HE and AP shells for breakfast until they have to many and finally explode

All in all I wish their was an AA in between the M42 and the M163 with a radar so American AA can be competitive with other nations AA
ikstarven Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by Toblm:
Originally posted by ikstarven:
the radar lead is useless, works by ping i guess because in test drive its brilliant but in real battles the lead is straight up lying
Works fine in battle for me.
I dropped 3 planes today in 600 rounds of ammo in under 2 mins after spawning a M163 mid match.

Now I dont like it as much the UK 8.3 SPAAs but its a 7.3 so I am willing to make allowances.
i only fire bursts at aircraft that are closer than 1km and use the radar lead, but i literally never hit anything, the only time i hit something was a pe-8 at 500m turning wide and it was then i didnt use the radar lead and fired A LOT further than it indicated, the leading indicator is full of ♥♥♥♥
FkYoSht Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
It reminds me of the Shilka. ♥♥♥♥ radar, massive spread, useless past 2km, meh velocity. Its really only useful catching CAS off guard on an attack run. Just wait till the M249 with prox itll get better
Belgord Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Blamite Delight:
because it's a tracking radar rather than a search radar. Debris within your field of view will also mess up the radar return signal (stuff as small as a leaf or tree branch will break the lock.) Thick cloud cover as well will also interfere with Radar tracking functionality. Another issue is if the jet you're attempting to target has chaff/flare pods, which is the most likely culprit of your target lead jumping around.

so will clear skys with nothing around it too
Epic Troll!!! Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by Blamite Delight:
because it's a tracking radar rather than a search radar. Debris within your field of view will also mess up the radar return signal (stuff as small as a leaf or tree branch will break the lock.) Thick cloud cover as well will also interfere with Radar tracking functionality. Another issue is if the jet you're attempting to target has chaff/flare pods, which is the most likely culprit of your target lead jumping around.
Even with clear skies, on a flat portion of land with no trees, and shooting at props going in straight lines you will rarely get a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ radar lock let alone get the lead indicator to stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bouncing around
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Date Posted: Feb 16, 2024 @ 8:14am
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