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DampfBuckel Oct 12, 2023 @ 12:29am
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Skill-based matchmaking
Why is there still no skill-based matchmaking at War Thunder???
I'm getting really tired of being shot down by players who are way above my skill level. For me (and I think for others too) it would really be nicer to be able to play at my own level.
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mogami_99 Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by Clitoriacetal:
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Are you afraid you wont be able to club seals anymore??
yes that is the only thing these people are afraid of. actaully having to play against people their skill group.

Once you explain how to determine a players skill group we will have made progress. It is not levels. You could perhaps make it levels if you had levels for every mode and BR
SpiralRazor Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by mogami_99:
Originally posted by Clitoriacetal:
yes that is the only thing these people are afraid of. actaully having to play against people their skill group.

Once you explain how to determine a players skill group we will have made progress. It is not levels. You could perhaps make it levels if you had levels for every mode and BR


In the same way that thunderskill gives an aggregate score, KDA is largely factored into it.

Seriously, this stuff is not rocket science and a lot of you REALLY over think it.
mogami_99 Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Originally posted by mogami_99:

Once you explain how to determine a players skill group we will have made progress. It is not levels. You could perhaps make it levels if you had levels for every mode and BR


In the same way that thunderskill gives an aggregate score, KDA is largely factored into it.

Seriously, this stuff is not rocket science and a lot of you REALLY over think it.

I would be quite the low level in air and ground. even my naval KDA is not amazing since i get most of my points from winning by taking caps.
SpiralRazor Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by mogami_99:
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:


In the same way that thunderskill gives an aggregate score, KDA is largely factored into it.

Seriously, this stuff is not rocket science and a lot of you REALLY over think it.

I would be quite the low level in air and ground. even my naval KDA is not amazing since i get most of my points from winning by taking caps.

And? So what?

Theres also win rate, frags per battle, lifespan, and total number of battles. All of those factor into your score.
mogami_99 Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Originally posted by mogami_99:

I would be quite the low level in air and ground. even my naval KDA is not amazing since i get most of my points from winning by taking caps.

And? So what?

Theres also win rate, frags per battle, lifespan, and total number of battles. All of those factor into your score.
give me the formula and I will compute my skill level in air/ground/naval there would need to be levels for each mode
Patriot03 Oct 13, 2023 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Originally posted by Patriot03:

That's unfair though.

Skill based Match Making is awful imo and it infects multiplayer games these days unfortunately. It's unfair manipulation of the match to try and craft an even experience for everyone and that's just bunk.

Dude..its entirely fair. Why do you think league is the biggest competitive online game in the world? Its because people at Challenger generally only play Challenger or high Platinum.

Are you afraid you wont be able to club seals anymore??

seal clubbing is literally just part of online gaming, it's natural to have an edge over the average gamer as you become more experienced and skilled at a game.

It's an even public arena where you can seal club and be seal clubbed by people far beyond your own skill. On average everyone tends to meet in the middle as a law of averages.


League is popular because it's popular, I don't play it and it's not a game that interests m, skill based mm or not. A random match maker is a fair match maker, a match maker that intentionally gimps skilled players and unfairly matches them with lemons is the exact opposite of fair.


You just want lifted up, anyone average or above should despise "skill" based match makers, but I could understand why someone on the bottom of the bell curve might be interested....


It's not fun, interesting, or FAIR to rig a game to where everyone gets beaten down or raised up to a 50% average. If you're bad you should lose more often and if you're good you should win more often, why spend the time to get good at a game just to crank out the same win/lose as a noob? There's no point.
Last edited by Patriot03; Oct 13, 2023 @ 9:56pm
Dadadudu Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:27pm 
The queue Time is already long enough. if you are fine waiting 10 Minutes + to get one Match good for you but im not
Elijah (Banned) Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by Empees0:
What stat/stats would you measure to decide what rank/skill level people should be at? And how would squading up with people work?
Other games, like Hunt:Showdown figured that out, why shouldn´t there be a way for War Thunder ?
Last edited by Elijah; Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:37pm
Elijah (Banned) Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Aaron:
The queue Time is already long enough. if you are fine waiting 10 Minutes + to get one Match good for you but im not

Search for all servers, your ping might get trashed, but with teh abysmall netcode and servers of war thunder, you rarely going to notice that.
Dadadudu Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:
Originally posted by Aaron:
The queue Time is already long enough. if you are fine waiting 10 Minutes + to get one Match good for you but im not

Search for all servers, your ping might get trashed, but with teh abysmall netcode and servers of war thunder, you rarely going to notice that.

Im definitely not going to play with above 100 Ping and in my ~900 Hours playing so far i can count the times i got kicked out of Match due to Server Connection or had a ping higher than 50 on one hand

And Modes like Arcade are already using Bots because theres not enough people playing it, do you want 10 Minute + queue time to be in a Match where half the Players are Bots?
Last edited by Dadadudu; Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:58pm
SmackFreak Oct 14, 2023 @ 12:42am 
Old guard here:
No. I will not have you take my seal-clubbing fun away from me!

In all seriousness I'm not all that great, I'd probably get matched with lvl 1's regardless :er_sad:
Desperadoscres Oct 14, 2023 @ 12:45am 
In the context of server matchmaking for a video game, there are several factors to consider, and I'll present them using a more scientific tone:

Server Availability and Player Compatibility:
We have four distinct servers available for gameplay. It is reasonable to assume an optimistic chance of approximately 25% that another player with compatible skill level and battle rating (BR) is currently seeking a match on the same server. This assumption takes into account the potential availability of compatible players for matchmaking.

Battle Rating Restriction:
Given the expansive battle rating range of 12.3, it is important to acknowledge that players can only be matched with others within a specific skill level, represented by 2.03% of the player base. However, we should note that this percentage does not account for variations in the popularity of specific BR levels.

Game Mode Diversity:
The situation is further complicated by the existence of six distinct game modes. This diversity reduces the matchmaking pool to a mere 0.34% of the total player base. It's crucial to emphasize that this calculation does not incorporate the intricacies of game mode popularity and specific matchmaking criteria.

Player Count for Matchmaking:
Focusing solely on these statistics, we can approximate that there are approximately 320 players within the matchmaking pool that could potentially be considered as suitable opponents. This figure, however, does not encompass the substantial influence of other factors that can impact matchmaking quality.

Skill-Based Categories:
To categorize player skill, we can differentiate between five broad categories: Clueless, Noob, Average, Good, and Pro. Under these broad categorizations, the matchmaking pool is further reduced to a mere 64 players. This stark reduction in potential opponents poses a notable challenge, especially when striving for reasonable queue times and enjoyable gameplay experiences.

Queue Time and Gameplay Experience:
When contemplating the consequences of such limited matchmaking options, it becomes evident that queue times could significantly extend, leading to experiences akin to waiting for a turn in a party game like Mariokart. Furthermore, the need to wait for all players to conclude a match or the division of players can further exacerbate this issue.

In summary, the intricate interplay of server availability, BR restrictions, game mode diversity, and skill-based categories underscores the challenges associated with matchmaking and queue times in the context of this video game. Addressing these challenges may require adjustments to matchmaking algorithms or other game design elements to ensure a more satisfying gaming experience for players.
Desperadoscres Oct 14, 2023 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by SmackFreak:
Old guard here:
No. I will not have you take my seal-clubbing fun away from me!

In all seriousness I'm not all that great, I'd probably get matched with lvl 1's regardless :er_sad:
on cod everyone that is slitgly competitive use techinique to be put against WAYYYY worst player, making it even worst than to not have sbbm
Dadadudu Oct 14, 2023 @ 1:29am 
The way it is now is best - it also forces you to become good yourself, if you only play against Noobs who don't know anything themself you won't learn much. And since the Game is F2P experienced Players could just make another Account and stomp Noobs with that one
Elijah (Banned) Oct 14, 2023 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by Aaron:
The way it is now is best - it also forces you to become good yourself, if you only play against Noobs who don't know anything themself you won't learn much. And since the Game is F2P experienced Players could just make another Account and stomp Noobs with that one

First, what ? You think becoming good in a videogame should be a requierment ? Gosh, please go outside and touch some grass if you take videogames THAT seriously.

Its freaken pass-time entertainment for fun, ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles.

Second, nooU ? Besides maybe the ones that prefer playing rank 1, nobody is going to waste time on another account.
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Date Posted: Oct 12, 2023 @ 12:29am
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