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Woofy McDoodle Jul 17, 2023 @ 2:37pm
Russian bias made this game unplayable
Before you start defending your beloved company, yes I played Russia all the way to 12.0 Ground and Air RB (mostly ground) and I also played USA, Japan, Germany in both ground and air RB and after many years I can officially say this game is just unplayable if you are not playing Russia. Its not even "challenging" its just impossible to play.
Yes the game is biased and that is not even some wild conspiracy, but facts. Lets look at top tier:
US Vehicles got their post pen damage removed to the point that even hitting crew directly will turn them yellow. Meanwhile Russian ammo spalls so much inside the enemy tank as if you just shot APHE rounds killing your entire crew in a single shot that can pen pretty much anything.
Autoloaders were always seen as the big weakpoint, thats why Gaijin made it so hitting the autoloader does no damage anymore. You have to be lucky to actually make it explode nowadays. Thanks to this Russian tanks have not a single weak point now, neither from the front nor the side.
Russian vehicles are ALWAYS better compared to their NATO equivalent:
-Ozelot gets added with mediocre, badly tracking missiles. Russia gets Strela with 10.7 IR missiles.
-Puma gets added? Instantly gets nerfed and 2S38 gets added with insane autocannon that can pen any tank it faces.
A10 gets added, Russians get Su25 that pretty much outperforms any Nato Groundpounder until 11.7
I can keep going how much of a disaster this game has become all in the name to please Mother Russia and their terror government.
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ErickaUnlimited Jul 17, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
Thanks to this Russian tanks have not a single weak point now, neither from the front nor the side.

Are you saying that all Russian tanks are void of weakpoints, or are we just talking the upper echelon of the tech tree based on the examples provided?
Woofy McDoodle Jul 17, 2023 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
Thanks to this Russian tanks have not a single weak point now, neither from the front nor the side.

Are you saying that all Russian tanks are void of weakpoints, or are we just talking the upper echelon of the tech tree based on the examples provided?
My main issue is top Tier everything from 9.0 and above, but I would go that far and say all Russian tanks are broken and overperforming to their counterparts.
KV1's are very hard to kill to the point where you need to pixel snipe small weakpoints, while having a gun that can pen any tank that they encounter.
T44, IS6 are both very hard to kill and destroy anything they facein their BR range, but the heaviest armor.
BMPs are frontally so slopped that any shot bounces off while having their engine in the front blocking any dmg.
Simply said anything that faces Russia is always inferior to what they field on the battlefield.
def. Jul 17, 2023 @ 2:50pm 
US 6.3 is fun.
For the most part you have 76mm guns at your disposal until you research something better.
You get the bulldog light tank...with round that have no explosive filler,good luck with that bro.
And while i love the 76mm guns, when you meet an IS-2 (or god forbid one of its other variants) the game just stops. You have to go for a very specific shot, while he can just click on you anywhere , even if you are jumbo. great fun.
xCrossFaith Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:08pm 
If you really played USSR, US and Germany you are fully aware Leo's are not weaker than T-Whatever variants

A10 is better than Su25 in every single aspect btw, more flares, better missiles and more loadout, the Su25 only has higher speed
And you seem to be concerned A10 had some competition added...

Let me guess: You were perfectly fine with the F14 being the only 4th gen jet?

I give you that USSR may have an edge when it comes to CAS options, but if you ever play something out of the "big 3" you will instanly see how you won't see something happen to a USSR tank that doesn't happen to US or Germany ones.
Last edited by xCrossFaith; Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:11pm
Soviet top tier is undeniably inba (think past 9.7ish), 9.7 soviet tanks get access to better ammo (and later on, better armor through trolly ERA) than the 10.3 Abrams, any soviet tank at 10.3 will lolpen you in the abrams, but below 9.7+ top tier? 8.0 America is very strong, 9.0 america can be very strong, 7.0 america is decent, 6.0 is okay(stuff like the Jumbo is overtiered sadly), but that being said, the Abrams at 10.3 is one of my best vehicles, even with the worst round at the 10.3 br and no armor
harrisdarron1 Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
ussr tanks are op i saw a guy that hit a is3 uesing a atgm that hade like 400mm of pen did no dmg to me ues ussr tanks are bias (sorry for bad typeing)
WeebLord69 Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
Before you start defending your beloved company, yes I played Russia all the way to 12.0 Ground and Air RB (mostly ground) and I also played USA, Japan, Germany in both ground and air RB and after many years I can officially say this game is just unplayable if you are not playing Russia. Its not even "challenging" its just impossible to play.
Yes the game is biased and that is not even some wild conspiracy, but facts. Lets look at top tier:
US Vehicles got their post pen damage removed to the point that even hitting crew directly will turn them yellow. Meanwhile Russian ammo spalls so much inside the enemy tank as if you just shot APHE rounds killing your entire crew in a single shot that can pen pretty much anything.
Autoloaders were always seen as the big weakpoint, thats why Gaijin made it so hitting the autoloader does no damage anymore. You have to be lucky to actually make it explode nowadays. Thanks to this Russian tanks have not a single weak point now, neither from the front nor the side.
Russian vehicles are ALWAYS better compared to their NATO equivalent:
-Ozelot gets added with mediocre, badly tracking missiles. Russia gets Strela with 10.7 IR missiles.
-Puma gets added? Instantly gets nerfed and 2S38 gets added with insane autocannon that can pen any tank it faces.
A10 gets added, Russians get Su25 that pretty much outperforms any Nato Groundpounder until 11.7
I can keep going how much of a disaster this game has become all in the name to please Mother Russia and their terror government.
A10 has 10KM fire forget missiles and 4 AIM-9L and thermals at 10.3, meanwhile SU-25 has 2x worse R-60Ms and only dumb munitions, learn the game noob.
Khrul Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:38pm 
Imagine utilizing Russian bias to get to the top then complaining once you realize every other main has to learn your tanks just as well as you do.

It's similar to the mods being ban happy here and going "excuse me why does everyone hate us"
Alaskan bigfoot Jul 17, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
Pretty much every tech tree has fun spots to play in for matchmaking, russia has very high performing end game vehicles and they sell a lot of premiums because of it, german mid tier is another example of OP tanks used as a cash cow.
As a german main i used to think we suffered, now that ive played 5 nations over rank 5 with lineups for ground and even planes and helis for some of them I know that certain nations just shine in different areas and thats part of why i ended up playing so many in the first place.
Bu3(SW) Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
Thanks to this Russian tanks have not a single weak point now, neither from the front nor the side.

Are you saying that all Russian tanks are void of weakpoints, or are we just talking the upper echelon of the tech tree based on the examples provided?
No of course he isnt saying that. He is saying he is incapable of hitting weakspots or using the skills he should have learned grinding up to top tier. he has essentially some form of top tier retrograde amnesia that make the game impossible for him to play.
Lavrentiy Beria Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Video games are a cope for irl failures, get over it.
still, I can't get behind the facts russian 9.7 has better thermals than german 11.7, I don't know about usa top tier but I've seen on youtuve the m1a2 has good thermals (that are equal to russian 9.7)
Originally posted by Abinadi:
Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Are you saying that all Russian tanks are void of weakpoints, or are we just talking the upper echelon of the tech tree based on the examples provided?
No of course he isnt saying that. He is saying he is incapable of hitting weakspots or using the skills he should have learned grinding up to top tier. he has essentially some form of top tier retrograde amnesia that make the game impossible for him to play.
Tell me this, why do people fighting Soviets need to snipe weakspots while they get to lolpen you? E.g Abrams vs Soviet T-Series tanks at 10.3 (I need to snipe their drivers hatch / gun barrel / lfp)
Last edited by Emperors Champion Dragos; Jul 17, 2023 @ 6:31pm
Bu3(SW) Jul 17, 2023 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Emperors Champion Dragos:
Originally posted by Abinadi:
No of course he isnt saying that. He is saying he is incapable of hitting weakspots or using the skills he should have learned grinding up to top tier. he has essentially some form of top tier retrograde amnesia that make the game impossible for him to play.
Tell me this, why do people fighting Soviets need to snipe weakspots while they get to lolpen you? E.g Abrams vs Soviet T-Series tanks at 10.3 (I need to snipe their drivers hatch / gun barrel / lfp)
You must play a differnt game because on most vehicles in Warthunder you have to snipe weakspots.
Shyue Chou Jul 17, 2023 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by Woofy McDoodle:
T44, IS6 are both very hard to kill and destroy anything they facein their BR range, but the heaviest armor.

I think the IS6 fares very poorly in uptiers. At its own tier, it is apparently powerful.
CheckedWriter56 Jul 17, 2023 @ 7:35pm 
For me it's a mix of broken vehicles, such as the PT76-57 (not as bad as it used to be) and ZSU-57, both of which are ridiculously powerful, and can destroy most things at their BRs from the front faster than you can even say "For ♥♥♥♥ sakes". And broken shell mechanics. The amount of times I hit somebody right in their ammo rack with my main gun, but cause minimal damage. Or rounds that should clearly pen, do not pen. and vise versa. The latter I mentioned is the bigger issue because it's not a sole issue with Russia,
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Date Posted: Jul 17, 2023 @ 2:37pm
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