Using anti aircraft as a main battle tank

[Κατακουζηνος.MXII]

I wish people who are clients of War Thunder. Stop using the anti-aircraft as a main battle tank. Too many often times in 3.0 battle to 6.0 battle. We are overwhelmed by aircraft in the air. Also we are put in a position where anti-aircraft vehicles are overwhelming the map and everyone less concentrated on the purpose of a task which is given to every client of War Thunder which never follows them. Absolutely never follows them and complains to developer they hate the game they hate that this and they called a video game. Stop using anti-aircraft as a main battle tank as a request. Unless if it's a Bradley. Unless if it's a other determination to use anti-aircraft because there is no other vehicle in your collection. With a backup. You're your act is completely making it easier for the enemy to win every map.

[JuX]

Probably because US desperate is lacking a tier 4 ground anti-air.

M42 and M19A1 are simply garbage vehicles that are only efficient in killing bombers, but nothing els. Only times you get openings to hit someone is when they target you (but since crew is 100% exposed you are likely to die first) and when aircrafts are stalling.

It's sad really that M16 is the best SPAA available until M163.


Besides aircrafts are far better at clearing out the skies for the US then ground anti-air, at lower tiers. So don't play the blame game and play SPAA yourself.

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

A lot of low to mid tier AA suck as actual AA. They simply are too slow to fire due to their larger calibers. There is a lot of skill issue, yeah, probably. I do not enjoy playing AA enough to nail how to engage planes in a lot of the scenarios they will be in, especially assuming it is a competent pilot.

That's why I find it much easier to spade AA as playing as a TD. They work a lot better as a TD, even a support tank, than they do as AA. If I truly cared about playing AA as US 3.0 and above, random BR, I would bring the M16.

[torindechoza]

i will be in AA in the red team and i will kill your cannon over and over until you surrender.

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Nah its pretty funny honestly.

Devs give ZSU-57-2 at 7.0, which literally has 150mm of pen and APHE rounds, has almost as much penetration as a T-34-85 and shoots 8-round bursts. Very useful against tanks.

Theres also higher tier AA like the gepard and some top tier stuff like the OTOMATIC, which literally caries an APFSDS belt that has 300mm of armor pen (funny).

Point is, if you think its bad at 6.0, just wait until you get higher up and the AA becomes even more deadly to other tanks.

[Northy]

İlk olarak Cha Cha Real Rough tarafından gönderildi:

Nah its pretty funny honestly.

Devs give ZSU-57-2 at 7.0, which literally has 150mm of pen and APHE rounds, has almost as much penetration as a T-34-85 and shoots 8-round bursts. Very useful against tanks.

Theres also higher tier AA like the gepard and some top tier stuff like the OTOMATIC, which literally caries an APFSDS belt that has 300mm of armor pen (funny).

Point is, if you think its bad at 6.0, just wait until you get higher up and the AA becomes even more deadly to other tanks.

Hell the AMX-13 DCA 40 at 4.0 is better at killing most tanks than planes so you often see it being used as a light tank destroyers over being used as a AA

[St4rted]

:D

[:partyhat:]

No I don't think I will

[BananaJoes]

welp last time i got from the enemy insulted because "what were you thinking and move outside your spawn/base", he did a strave right over me (nearly in the middle of the map) and i killed him, and then his rage began.

a big problem is too that many go into fighter planes, and just ignore enemy planes, i had it too often now when i came in BR 3+ with my bv 238 and literally 5 seconds later got attacked by a spawn camper, and even when 1 km in front of me several fighters just spawned in, sure often you can kill the enemy attackers down in the bv238 but only if you see them early and youre able to get the rear guns ready (had a lot of games where i wasnt able to drop the bombs, but literally got then 3-4 fighter kills, while my allied fighters where straving ground units and couldnt kill them).

im not the best bomber/killing per bomb with the bv238, but even when i just can make a spotting carpet bombing to help my allies to get a overview whats in front of them and where, since i cant find it right out if the bvs bombs are dropped more to the side or they actually hit where the bombing crosshair is

[Shad1902]

MBT's are a concept of the 1960...

so everything from before that era cannot be used as a MBT but as a fast firing fire support weapon.

and...that might shock you but...those weapons were designed with multi-purpose in mind, that's why they even have that amount of gun depression to begin with.

Maybe you should go back in time and ask the germans to not use their 88 AA gun for AT purposes, or remove the 20mm AA gun from their Pz.II's..or ask the swedish to not develop the BoFors 40mm as a dual purpose AT / AA gun.. so you can enjoy your game as you like.

[Bomberpilot]

Ap rounds should be just removed from anti air vehicles and ban them from killing tanks. No anti air was driving around in city and shoot to tanks irl. Anti air was hiding deep behind friendly lines so it's nonsense what we have in game and idiots that defend it telling that anti air was fighting with ground forces, when in reality it was super rare.

[Zorlond]

İlk olarak 𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner tarafından gönderildi:

A lot of low to mid tier AA suck as actual AA.

This. So very much This. When you get stuck with a POS AA that can't do AA worth a damn, you look for any and all ways to grind through it's RPs. Including charging into ground battle. It's a bad choice, but there isn't any better one.