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R-73 IRCCM
Recently the R-73 feels like an R-60 with how much it likes flares. Feels like the IRCCM is not working 90% of the time. Anyone else having this problem?
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I AM THE LAW! 15. juli 2024 kl. 19:17 
Imo it's been like that since it was released with the su-27.
It's IRCCM really only seems to work when it's within 1km
The Wang 15. juli 2024 kl. 20:11 
They probably did it so it's harder to grind for the better Radar missiles like the R-77 and Aim120(respectively). Gameplay overall has been a dump lately, Ground and air both have me closing the game within a few matches between bugs and just the regular bs we see every day.
JuX 16. juli 2024 kl. 0:28 
While top tier IR potency was diminished early on it's arrival. It all comes down to how you use them and if your target knows how to deal with it. AIM-9M for example never hits anything moving horizontally that is flaring, but is lethal on front/rear-aspect attacks.
cat 16. juli 2024 kl. 4:05 
R-73 feels like R-60M only when you so so close the IRCM work
Kay 16. juli 2024 kl. 4:24 
IRCCM isn't a win button. First, look at what IRCCM the missile actually has. In this case, it uses FoV gating, which means it uses a wide FoV to acquire a lock, then switches to a narrow FoV after launch in an attempt to counter flares by not having them get seen by the seeker. At longer ranges and in front/rear aspect shots, this doesn't work as well since the missiles can still see flares and switch target.

On side aspect shots, because of flare rise time, the missile is much less likely to see them from longer ranges than a front or rear aspect shots.
I AM THE LAW! 16. juli 2024 kl. 10:13 
Oprindeligt skrevet af JuX:
While top tier IR potency was diminished early on it's arrival. It all comes down to how you use them and if your target knows how to deal with it. AIM-9M for example never hits anything moving horizontally that is flaring, but is lethal on front/rear-aspect attacks.
I'd love to see these front aspect kills you're getting...I never die to front aspect 9m. and I RARELY get front aspect kills with 9ms....
JuX 16. juli 2024 kl. 10:19 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Craftfaster:
Oprindeligt skrevet af JuX:
While top tier IR potency was diminished early on it's arrival. It all comes down to how you use them and if your target knows how to deal with it. AIM-9M for example never hits anything moving horizontally that is flaring, but is lethal on front/rear-aspect attacks.
I'd love to see these front aspect kills you're getting...I never die to front aspect 9m. and I RARELY get front aspect kills with 9ms....

Iv gotten front-aspect hits in close range combat. The closer i am to the target before launching, better the odds of hitting.
Venom 16. juli 2024 kl. 10:30 
Oprindeligt skrevet af TheMan_WithNoPlan:
Recently the R-73 feels like an R-60 with how much it likes flares. Feels like the IRCCM is not working 90% of the time. Anyone else having this problem?


Personally, I feel that the effectiveness of anti-radar measures was increased, probably thanks to the Fox 3 missiles. Regarding the R-73, I had a similar problem, I started to change the gameplay, shot angles, distance and subsequent behavior of the missile. Then he adjusted my playing style accordingly and the situation improved. As someone has already written, R-73s are undetectable, mainly from the front, but for me, attacks from the side where you limit yourself with the plane and send the missile more in advance, while the countermeasures fly behind the plane, that is, you create as much difference as possible between the targeting missile and the countermeasures, and in in that case, he often hits the target. It also depends on your speed and how much energy you transfer to the rocket. The R-73 also works well at a very short distance of less than 1 km, where thanks to its high G acceleration, it can turn very well, before the enemy often reacts with countermeasures. And evasive maneuvers often do not work due to the aforementioned G drags of the rocket.
TheAndyboy888 16. juli 2024 kl. 11:39 
Crying with Aim-9Ms, because they are real garbage :(
Sidst redigeret af TheAndyboy888; 16. juli 2024 kl. 11:40
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