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Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 0:11
Sherman line, nerf or uptier.
A 76mm L-11 for my KV-1 does not pen with the upgraded AP rounds. The Sherman had 50mm of armor, and at it's angle, an effective thickness of about 77mm thick at a flat trajectory. My KV-1 L-11 can pen 83mm of armor at 10m, and I usually find myself at point blank with these things. Yet even though I can pen several more MM of armor than the Sherman has, I get no pens except the side when I aim for the engine block.

The OP 105 Sherman is a different story entirely, it has even more armor than the L-11 can go through and somehow a 105mm derp howitzer goes through my effective armor thickness of 95mm and explodes inside, destroying everything and blowing off my turret? Right.

Please uptier all Shermans to Tier III, or make them actually able to be destroyed by something other than my ZiS-30. Let's face it, a KV-1 would eat two or three M4A1s for lunch at once.
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Nate 24 DIC 2014 a las 17:11 
I will say this since they gave it a 4.7 br they need to move it out of tier 2 cause the other tanks at tier 2 cant handle that br. The 105 sherman.
Última edición por Nate; 24 DIC 2014 a las 17:25
Assblaster 24 DIC 2014 a las 18:36 
The 105 got a BR upgrade anyway.
[Cz]crimson 24 DIC 2014 a las 18:39 
i do agree that tanks need moving around like the tiger needs dropping down a tier and the tiger p should be tier 2 or 3 the armour is stupid for its tier.

the problem with the tier 2 shermans unless ur hitting weakspots on the russian tanks u have to be point blank on ther sides

as for shermans beeing op i can take them out with a kv 1 at point blank there in the right tier for there armour if there up a tier on that bases then the kvs should be upped a tier as there armour is around the same
Última edición por [Cz]crimson; 24 DIC 2014 a las 18:43
Probably Lime 24 DIC 2014 a las 19:18 
Publicado originalmente por Czcrimson:
i do agree that tanks need moving around like the tiger needs dropping down a tier and the tiger p should be tier 2 or 3 the armour is stupid for its tier.
Wait wait, what?

The Tiger is currently at 5.7 BR. If you drop it down to 4.7 it would be fighting the KV-1 with the L-11 gun, which is incapable of penetrating its frontal armor at ANY range, and can only penetrate its side/rear armor at under 10 meters with its APBC ammo.

The T-34-1942 wouldn't fare much better, as it would have to get under 100 meters to engage with APBC and under 500 with APCR.

Currently the tiger sits at 4.7, the same as the IS-1, which seems quite reasonable to me. The Tiger I has to fight the IS-2 and SU-100, and the IS-1 has to fight Tiger IIs and Jadgpanthers.
Casual Sun 24 DIC 2014 a las 20:06 
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Publicado originalmente por Casual Sun:
Crying while playing Russian tanks.

Good. Learn to play like the rest of us.

How about someone on Steam be nice for a change, and instead of insulting the OP, do something productive and offer an answer other than that.

However, the hypocricy is real. You, as an American tank driver (I'm assuming) Don't have to learn to play "like the rest of us". You point, shoot, and laugh as hopeless 76mm shells bounce off your 50mm armor even when they hit at a flat angle from 10m away. Get out.

I play as all the factions for everything.
I am a hypocrite apparently.

You're a fucking idiot. close the thread. This guy just wants to cry and is thoroughly convinced American tanks are OP despite the fact that their engines catch on fire from front hits, their drivers always get knocked out, their ammo is located in ezpz spots, they can get rammed and flipped, and their horizontal turret drive breaks if anything touches it.

I specifically try to avoid playing the T-34 as Russia just because of how completely OP it is. It's incredibly easy. Fast, Well armored, Good cannon. The only challenging opponents are other T-34s. I don't care if anyone's argument is "That's how it was in real life." ok, I won't argue it. Yeah, it was good. It's still just a crutch tank for people that can't play the actual game.

If you're going to start talking about OP tanks, you start with Russia and work your way down. All this "Omg fix ameritanks" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is all coming from the Russia fanbois that are sad that they can't just shoot the driver's slat like they can with completely butt-raped Germany.
LupisVolk 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:02 
Aww poor OP's little T-34's are no longer roflstomping everyone, now there's competetion. Poor, poor OP.
Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:03 
Publicado originalmente por Casual Sun:
Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:

How about someone on Steam be nice for a change, and instead of insulting the OP, do something productive and offer an answer other than that.

However, the hypocricy is real. You, as an American tank driver (I'm assuming) Don't have to learn to play "like the rest of us". You point, shoot, and laugh as hopeless 76mm shells bounce off your 50mm armor even when they hit at a flat angle from 10m away. Get out.

I play as all the factions for everything.
I am a hypocrite apparently.

You're a fucking idiot. close the thread. This guy just wants to cry and is thoroughly convinced American tanks are OP despite the fact that their engines catch on fire from front hits, their drivers always get knocked out, their ammo is located in ezpz spots, they can get rammed and flipped, and their horizontal turret drive breaks if anything touches it.

I specifically try to avoid playing the T-34 as Russia just because of how completely OP it is. It's incredibly easy. Fast, Well armored, Good cannon. The only challenging opponents are other T-34s. I don't care if anyone's argument is "That's how it was in real life." ok, I won't argue it. Yeah, it was good. It's still just a crutch tank for people that can't play the actual game.

If you're going to start talking about OP tanks, you start with Russia and work your way down. All this "Omg fix ameritanks" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is all coming from the Russia fanbois that are sad that they can't just shoot the driver's slat like they can with completely butt-raped Germany.


If you want to start the insult war, we can do this all day. I've got plenty.

If you'd like to have a rational debate, I'll indulge you. Their engines do NOT catch on fire from frontal hits. If I can't pen them from the front, how would the engine catch fire? Their ammo is no better. I can't pen the turret to hit an ammo rack. Then again, this is with both my T-34 and KV-1 utilizing the L-11 gun with APBC ammo. Esssentially, good ammo for a bad gun.


Russia fanboi? I guess being born and indoctrinated into USSR propaganda is being a "fanboi". Alright.
Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:04 
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:
Aww poor OP's little T-34's are no longer roflstomping everyone, now there's competetion. Poor, poor OP.

If you have worthwhile input, by all means, share.

If you have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, don't comment.
LupisVolk 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:05 
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If you want to start the insult war, we can do this all day. I've got plenty.

If you'd like to have a rational debate, I'll indulge you. Their engines do NOT catch on fire from frontal hits. If I can't pen them from the front, how would the engine catch fire? Their ammo is no better. I can't pen the turret to hit an ammo rack. Then again, this is with both my T-34 and KV-1 utilizing the L-11 gun with APBC ammo. Esssentially, good ammo for a bad gun.


Russia fanboi? I guess being born and indoctrinated into USSR propaganda is being a "fanboi". Alright.

mate US tanks are the easist to catch on fire in the game. US tanks in tier 1-2 with some early tier 3 have utter garbage ammo and they have the most easy ammo spots to hit.

It's great that KV-1-L11 and T-34's have to work for a kill. no more Russian easy mode for your scrub arses.

Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:
Aww poor OP's little T-34's are no longer roflstomping everyone, now there's competetion. Poor, poor OP.

If you have worthwhile input, by all means, share.

If you have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, don't comment.

what? upset that you are no longer the big fish? The M4A3 105mm has had it's BR rightfully changed. now all we need is the 75mm M4-A1-A2 to hav thier BR lowered to 2.7-3.0 then we'd be on equal level.
Última edición por LupisVolk; 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:07
Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:24 
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:
Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:


If you want to start the insult war, we can do this all day. I've got plenty.

If you'd like to have a rational debate, I'll indulge you. Their engines do NOT catch on fire from frontal hits. If I can't pen them from the front, how would the engine catch fire? Their ammo is no better. I can't pen the turret to hit an ammo rack. Then again, this is with both my T-34 and KV-1 utilizing the L-11 gun with APBC ammo. Esssentially, good ammo for a bad gun.


Russia fanboi? I guess being born and indoctrinated into USSR propaganda is being a "fanboi". Alright.

mate US tanks are the easist to catch on fire in the game. US tanks in tier 1-2 with some early tier 3 have utter garbage ammo and they have the most easy ammo spots to hit.

It's great that KV-1-L11 and T-34's have to work for a kill. no more Russian easy mode for your scrub arses.

Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:

If you have worthwhile input, by all means, share.

If you have this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, don't comment.

what? upset that you are no longer the big fish? The M4A3 105mm has had it's BR rightfully changed. now all we need is the 75mm M4-A1-A2 to hav thier BR lowered to 2.7-3.0 then we'd be on equal level.


Why do you keep referring to the Soviets as if they've fallen from OPness? Never were OP, even when I played Germans against them. A quick shot with a STUG would pop any tank I saw open.
LupisVolk 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:26 
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Why do you keep referring to the Soviets as if they've fallen from OPness? Never were OP, even when I played Germans against them. A quick shot with a STUG would pop any tank I saw open.

sigh,. Why do i keep refering them as OP? Because they are! Plain and simple. they have the best BR and ammo choices. Which StuG? the shor 75mm couldn't do squat to a T-34.
Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:41 
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:
Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:


Why do you keep referring to the Soviets as if they've fallen from OPness? Never were OP, even when I played Germans against them. A quick shot with a STUG would pop any tank I saw open.

sigh,. Why do i keep refering them as OP? Because they are! Plain and simple. they have the best BR and ammo choices. Which StuG? the shor 75mm couldn't do squat to a T-34.

It was the long barrel version, same gun as the PZ. IV F2. I've been killed in my T-34 model 1940 so many times by short barreled StuGs though. I'll have a broken track or some other issue, and one will come speeding in from the side and detonate my ammo/light my engine on fire.
Egro 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:45 
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:
Publicado originalmente por I... AM... THE UNION!:


Why do you keep referring to the Soviets as if they've fallen from OPness? Never were OP, even when I played Germans against them. A quick shot with a STUG would pop any tank I saw open.

sigh,. Why do i keep refering them as OP? Because they are! Plain and simple. they have the best BR and ammo choices. Which StuG? the shor 75mm couldn't do squat to a T-34.
Uhmm...the T34 still can one hit the StuG III Ausf. G, so I don't think it've fallen any where..
Belisarius 24 DIC 2014 a las 21:48 
Publicado originalmente por ARC8Egro:
Publicado originalmente por LupisVolk:

sigh,. Why do i keep refering them as OP? Because they are! Plain and simple. they have the best BR and ammo choices. Which StuG? the shor 75mm couldn't do squat to a T-34.
Uhmm...the T34 still can one hit the StuG III Ausf. G, so I don't think it've fallen any where..

You have to take into account the 6-8 second reload (I think it's 8.1 seconds). Although I only had trouble breaking in StuGs when I used 45mm rounds or the godawful 76mm gun on the T-28.
Egro 24 DIC 2014 a las 22:07 
The Stug of any series only use 75mm so I don't know how you fire a 45mm and the Stug III Ausf. A ( the short barrel one) is actually the king of its tier. Good ammour, can use HEAT, low profile. A T34 take 8 seconds to reload? I don't think any medium tanks in the game need 8 seconds to reload, 8 secs is a very long wait time.
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