Planes destroying the tank game....

[Bloodyryss]

Am I the only one or are Tier 4 planes in tank battle just hilarious? Got a round where 1 bomb kills 4 heavy tanks in a 100 m radius ... This isnt normal ....

[Jimmiefan]

Perhaps, those 4 heavy tanks shouldn't be that close to one another. There are tactics for a reason, though alot of people don't seem to use them. At some point, someone is going to make a post saying tanks shouldn't be able to shoot planes, that AA trucks are already bad. There are counters to the planes, try using them.

[Neo Genesis]

Planes are all well and good and just like Jimmiefan said "There are counters to the planes".

The only thing I can't stand about planes is getting destroyed by a tank, respawning, driving for 2 seconds only to have a bomb land on you.

I feel like the invulnerability period should be extended but only for damage from planes.

I would really like to at least be able to reach the battle again before I'm sent back the tank select screen.

[Bronski]

In realistic I don't have a problem with them. You have to get the points first to launch one and its a pretty good amount. Arcade is a bit more of an issue.

With arcade I don't really have a problem with there being planes its more that there isn't any downside to flying and crashing the planes. As long as you are able to earn the point then you can keep launching them.

Here are some of the ideas i've had for arcade:

-Each side has a limited amount of each type of plane that players can take control of. If the plane is destroyed it reduces the amount and if you expend all of them then you can call out those planes anymore. If the plane survives it flies off and the amount isn't reduced. This would also make AA vehicles more important and possibly reduce tank ramming by planes.

-Maybe add some AI fighters in the sky. They wouldn't attack ground targets but it would give a reason for players to pull out AA vehicles.

-Let players give control of their MG's on the top of some tanks to the crew. So they can fire at aircraft while you do more important things.

Out of those the big thing I hope they do is make the aircraft a resource in arcade. I think that would help out a lot.

[Bloodyryss]

Publicado originalmente por RLM Jimmiefan:

Perhaps, those 4 heavy tanks shouldn't be that close to one another. There are tactics for a reason, though alot of people don't seem to use them. At some point, someone is going to make a post saying tanks shouldn't be able to shoot planes, that AA trucks are already bad. There are counters to the planes, try using them.

1. I tried enough times to use a AA-Gun but its too hard ... okay I killed 3 or 4 planes already with my normal tanks ... but normally you just cant hit them because the hitmarker is only accurate if they are flying in 1 straight line what the most dont do ... also you can nearly only hit them with a machine gun and even that is hard because you need also a good position what is not so easy in the most maps ...

2. How to be split up in an narrow passage and we werent that near together like said ca 100 m ...

3. The thing about planes was to give Tanks SUPPORT but not to do 50% of the job ... with 1 bomb ...

4. Like Bronski said ... most of the players dont play AA-Guns / are bad with them because they cant really practice and its pretty boring because in some game every min there are planes in the air but in an other game there are only 2 or 3 plane attacks in the whole game so the player gets bored and wont play aa gun again ...

[Bronski]

I probably couldn't hurt them to rethink the bomb loads on the bombers. Some of them have the 1000lb and 1000kg bombs on them in the arcade battles. I imagine that is what hit the 4 tanks.

It also seems like you gain artillery rather quickly as well. So between that and the planes you have things falling on your head constantly.

[Jimmiefan]

Publicado originalmente por Bl00dy-BuDDy:

Publicado originalmente por RLM Jimmiefan:

Perhaps, those 4 heavy tanks shouldn't be that close to one another. There are tactics for a reason, though alot of people don't seem to use them. At some point, someone is going to make a post saying tanks shouldn't be able to shoot planes, that AA trucks are already bad. There are counters to the planes, try using them.

1. I tried enough times to use a AA-Gun but its too hard ... okay I killed 3 or 4 planes already with my normal tanks ... but normally you just cant hit them because the hitmarker is only accurate if they are flying in 1 straight line what the most dont do ... also you can nearly only hit them with a machine gun and even that is hard because you need also a good position what is not so easy in the most maps ...

2. How to be split up in an narrow passage and we werent that near together like said ca 100 m ...

3. The thing about planes was to give Tanks SUPPORT but not to do 50% of the job ... with 1 bomb ...

4. Like Bronski said ... most of the players dont play AA-Guns / are bad with them because they cant really practice and its pretty boring because in some game every min there are planes in the air but in an other game there are only 2 or 3 plane attacks in the whole game so the player gets bored and wont play aa gun again ...

1. I love AA trucks, and it's not that hard. They give you where to shoot, and you fire slightly infront to compensate for the aircraft's constant speed and direction changes. I find that I get more hits when the aircraft is turning because the wings gives me more surface area to shoot.

2. That is something you need to work out with your team. If they have heavy bombers dropping bombs all over, make sure your not making anything worse by clustering up near others. It's not going to work perfectly everytime, but it should help make the bomber's day slightly less rewarding.

3. I find I can do the most work on the ground with the tanks. If I get in a fight where I'm pinned down by one, or even multiple enemy tanks, I will go attacker or bomber and quickly bomb them (assuming I have got enough points. If not, work with your team to flank them). If it doesn't kill them, they may back up, being a bit more cautious. Players may try to make aircraft do more then just support the ground troops, but in reality, the planes can't do much more. Your team may lose several tanks to enemy aircraft, but remember, your team can do the exact same thing to them.

4. How do players not get a chance to practice? They get custom battles with other players, they could create a private AI controlled custom match if you really need some target practice on things that won't shoot you. Some matches will have lots of planes for you to shoot and others won't. That how it is, and it's exactly like normal. You may have a great match getting several kills, capturing points serveral times, and dieing very little, but you also get matches where you die right away, or spend most of the match trying to find a tank or plane to kill.

[Hydro [SIRRIS]]

The game-designer who put suicide-bombers in ab-gf should be banned from the whole industry.
This is the worst case of game-design I have ever seen - and I saw a lot of crap.

[Assblaster]

get gooder

[=UPG= ๖ۣۜDalek]

It's almost as if planes dominated tanks in real life too...

[Hydro [SIRRIS]]

Publicado originalmente por =UPG= ๖ۣۜDalek:

It's almost as if planes dominated tanks in real life too...

Sure they suicide-dived on the fist magically marked tank, dropping their bombload full joy while doing so.

Some people are just bejond any help.

[Ryker Kohl]

While I understand planes having a advantage over tanks, the whole kamikaze bomber thing is probs what annoys me more than anything, there is no downside to just zerging yea plane at a target, what he gonna do? Kill yea? not like yea punished for getting shot down by AA or anything, but yea still rewarded for kills in return, seems abit stacked is all.

Realistic is fine though, I ment in Arcade battle its silly.

[Hydro [SIRRIS]]

Publicado originalmente por Volkenstein:

While I understand planes having a advantage over tanks, the whole kamikaze bomber thing is probs what annoys me more than anything, there is no downside to just zerging yea plane at a target, what he gonna do? Kill yea? not like yea punished for getting shot down by AA or anything, but yea still rewarded for kills in return, seems abit stacked is all.

Its just so incredible stupid, there are up to FIVE bombers/attackers in the air all the time.
Right now they are nothing more but cheap COD-like nonsense.

[=UPG= ๖ۣۜDalek]

Publicado originalmente por Hydro:

Publicado originalmente por Volkenstein:

While I understand planes having a advantage over tanks, the whole kamikaze bomber thing is probs what annoys me more than anything, there is no downside to just zerging yea plane at a target, what he gonna do? Kill yea? not like yea punished for getting shot down by AA or anything, but yea still rewarded for kills in return, seems abit stacked is all.

Its just so incredible stupid, there are up to FIVE bombers/attackers in the air all the time.
Right now they are nothing more but cheap COD-like nonsense.

I'm not sure what's funnier, Volkenstein taking Arcade battles seriously, or you thinking there can be 5 bombers/ attackers at a time.

[Hydro [SIRRIS]]

Publicado originalmente por =UPG= ๖ۣۜDalek:

Its just so incredible stupid, there are up to FIVE bombers/attackers in the air all the time.

Open your eyes troll, they are five free slots for bombers in each AB match.

[Ryker Kohl]

I like how yea assume I am taking Arcade seriously, I was simply saying that its kinda stupid how using a plane has zero downsides at all, hell, I even said its understandable that planes have advantage.