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s.pz.abt.503 Nov 30, 2014 @ 2:13pm
SU-122 is Over Powered
A Su-122 with SHORT barrel, destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m ????? Well yes.....it happened!! This is ridiculosy! SU-122 it's artillery piece not a Tank destroyer like ISU-122 or SU-ISU-152. So do the right Things in this game please!
Last edited by s.pz.abt.503; Nov 30, 2014 @ 2:14pm
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grey Nov 30, 2014 @ 2:20pm 
git gud
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Daddy Pingu Nov 30, 2014 @ 2:52pm 
You know the short barrel doesn't make any difference right? It's all about how large the caliber is and the angle of impact + your armor thickness of the area that is hit. A tiger can and will be taken out. It's not a Super invincible tank you know?
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W - Tungstene Nov 30, 2014 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by s.pz.abt.503:
A Su-122 with SHORT barrel, destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m ????? Well yes.....it happened!! This is ridiculosy! SU-122 it's artillery piece not a Tank destroyer like ISU-122 or SU-ISU-152. So do the right Things in this game please!

1. how in the hell is a tigers frontal armor 500mm ( please tell me if it was angled at all )

2. "SHORT barrel" guns really have to effect at close distance and plus it just matters how large the round is

3. The SU - 122 was not ment JUST to be a artillery peice . . . if you look at the WW I I russian archives you should be able to find many different situations were the SU - 122 was used as "Infatry suporrt vehicle" a "Anti - tank vehicle" and as a Howitzer becasue the 122 was NOT an Artillery piece but was normaly ( which means almost all the time ) used as a Howitzer which is very different from a Artillery piece.
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W - Tungstene Nov 30, 2014 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by s.pz.abt.503:
A Su-122 with SHORT barrel, destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m ????? Well yes.....it happened!! This is ridiculosy! SU-122 it's artillery piece not a Tank destroyer like ISU-122 or SU-ISU-152. So do the right Things in this game please!

oh and can you give a screen shot of the replay of the angling of the armor plz (: and thank you
Last edited by W - Tungstene; Nov 30, 2014 @ 3:49pm
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Rottenflieger Nov 30, 2014 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by Высокий Вайнер CLAS:

1. how in the hell is a tigers frontal armor 500mm ( please tell me if it was angled at all )

OP never said that. "destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m..." means it was 500m away from the tiger at the time.
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W - Tungstene Nov 30, 2014 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by Rottenflieger:
Originally posted by Высокий Вайнер CLAS:

1. how in the hell is a tigers frontal armor 500mm ( please tell me if it was angled at all )

OP never said that. "destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m..." means it was 500m away from the tiger at the time.

oooooooo i though i saw 500 mm ( Armor ) sorry XD

but at that distance it still does not make much difference because the round is the thing that pens it becasue of the exposives not becasue of the velosity normaly . . . but haveing velosity does help
Last edited by W - Tungstene; Nov 30, 2014 @ 5:52pm
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Rottenflieger Nov 30, 2014 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by Высокий Вайнер CLAS:
oooooooo i though i saw 500 mm ( Armor ) sorry XD

No worries, easy enough to confuse :D
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Spaddobird Nov 30, 2014 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by aakp971:
You know the short barrel doesn't make any difference right?

That's not true at all.
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Wardog Nov 30, 2014 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by s.pz.abt.503:
A Su-122 with SHORT barrel, destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m ????? Well yes.....it happened!! This is ridiculosy! SU-122 it's artillery piece not a Tank destroyer like ISU-122 or SU-ISU-152. So do the right Things in this game please!
No, you should play against T-54s and IS-4Ms. Now those are overpowered because they're Korean War tanks against WW2 tanks.
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W - Tungstene Nov 30, 2014 @ 6:36pm 
Originally posted by Wardog:
Originally posted by s.pz.abt.503:
A Su-122 with SHORT barrel, destroyed a TIGER frontaly at 500m ????? Well yes.....it happened!! This is ridiculosy! SU-122 it's artillery piece not a Tank destroyer like ISU-122 or SU-ISU-152. So do the right Things in this game please!
No, you should play against T-54s and IS-4Ms. Now those are overpowered because they're Korean War tanks against WW2 tanks.

lol the tiger II is classified as a Korean War tanks becasue of how advanced they were
( as an example of how advance they were they were close to profecting the Ground to air Missile ) and i have drivin german tanks ageints russian tank and i ahve never had any problems
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Wardog Nov 30, 2014 @ 7:30pm 
Originally posted by Высокий Вайнер CLAS:
Originally posted by Wardog:
No, you should play against T-54s and IS-4Ms. Now those are overpowered because they're Korean War tanks against WW2 tanks.

lol the tiger II is classified as a Korean War tanks becasue of how advanced they were
( as an example of how advance they were they were close to profecting the Ground to air Missile ) and i have drivin german tanks ageints russian tank and i ahve never had any problems
You obviously have never fought against korean war tanks and no the tiger 2 was never classified as Korean War. I don't know what fake history you've taught yourself but it's wrong.
Last edited by Wardog; Nov 30, 2014 @ 8:49pm
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s.pz.abt.503 Dec 1, 2014 @ 2:13am 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-122
Well, it was M-30 howitzer, not a AT gun. For suporting infantery it uses HE shell and only HE shells. It havent AT capabilities (or AP shells), except indeed a very close range combat, when HE shells can blow up a turret of a german armor. But such close distance i guess it is in theory because SU-122 was suporting by T-34-85 or SU-76 (early) and this was stand behind of tanks in real combat. A short barrell cannot imprime enough muzzel velocity to the shell to penetrate such an armor. For Killing the Tiger or other heavy german tanks, there are many other russian tanks/SPG, like SU-100 (the best), IS-2, etc. So.....at 500 METERS DISTANCE (not milimeters...), to PENETRATE FRONTAL 102mm ARMOR OF A TIGER WITH SU-122 HOWITZER, IT IS A BIG ERROR AND A FALSE THING !!!
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Brain Fear Dec 1, 2014 @ 2:44am 
Originally posted by s.pz.abt.503:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-122
Well, it was M-30 howitzer, not a AT gun. For suporting infantery it uses HE shell and only HE shells. It havent AT capabilities (or AP shells), except indeed a very close range combat, when HE shells can blow up a turret of a german armor. But such close distance i guess it is in theory because SU-122 was suporting by T-34-85 or SU-76 (early) and this was stand behind of tanks in real combat. A short barrell cannot imprime enough muzzel velocity to the shell to penetrate such an armor. For Killing the Tiger or other heavy german tanks, there are many other russian tanks/SPG, like SU-100 (the best), IS-2, etc. So.....at 500 METERS DISTANCE (not milimeters...), to PENETRATE FRONTAL 102mm ARMOR OF A TIGER WITH SU-122 HOWITZER, IT IS A BIG ERROR AND A FALSE THING !!!

besides that your profile is a lvl 0 private one and thus probably a troll, ever thought about that the su-122 isn't about the penetration but about the explosion? the thing is a howitzer and will knock your crew out or dmg vital parts of your tank.

And the Tiger 1 isn't known for it's armor.....,
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s.pz.abt.503 Dec 1, 2014 @ 4:07am 
What relevance it have my profile? I know about ww2 armor warfares much more things that many others who are masters in this game. But if this game it want's to be a real deal, with ballistics calculations, technical data , AP table, etc, developers should be know that i whrite in the posts below, should be the truth. So what you are talking about? what explosion? I talk here about my personal experience in this game, not a story whitch i heard somewere. A troll ? lol, i gain experience without any real money to buy any units and i am preety far right now, level 4 on ground units, so i know something about this.....
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Liniyka Dec 1, 2014 @ 5:18am 
Wow, you guys don't know what you are talking about. Su-122 has a shell named BP-460A, which can penetrate up to 160mm at any range. Your Tiger was destoyed by this shell. End of story.
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