Are bombers crap?/are the German bombers any good?

[Captain Rico]

Title says it all.

[Fury]

Jet bombers then thank me later.

[SSA]

Would have to say not all are crap. I prefer the Russian Ar-2 and IL-4 and the SB's are all good 2.3 to 3.0, The American line B-17's and 24's get serious nerf and now one quick burst of 7.7 mm will take off a wing. Wellingtons for me may as well have a big bullseye painted on saying come get me but the 2.0 BR is really good for Brit. Germans are ok but I can't seem to hit the broadside of a barn with them unless you are really low.

[VanGoth]

Do217, 4x1000kg, 750kph in a shallow dive, nuff said.

[Rottenflieger]

Bombers aren't crap, however with the current state of the game they aren't as durable as they used to be. In general I think US bombers are some of the best, they have lotsa of defensive guns which can do decnt amounts of damage and set enemy planes on fire.

British bombers I don't have a lot of experience with. The low tier ones are pretty good asthey go against biplanes and other early fighters. The Wellingtons aren't very good afaik, since their turrets don't have very good fields of fire.

Japanese bombers are interesting. many of them are highly manouverable, and some have cannons in the tail. In general they are pretty fragile but manouverable. There are 2 japanese heavy bombers, the G5N1 is awful, it has crappy guns, a poor bombload and wallows around the sky. The G8N1 is better, with lots of 20mm turrets and good speed (however it is still pretty fragile).

Russian Bombers are a mixed bag since there's so many of them. The low tier ones like the SBs have really powerful mgs and are pretty durable, albeit slow. The mid to late tier bombers all have the capacity to carry huge bombs, which makes them pretty devastating in ground forces battles. The Russians also have a wide selection of divebombers. One's such as the IL2s can carry a lot of rockets and bombs, whilst you've also got the PE series which can carry larger bombs.

The German bombers aren't the best. The He 111s are pretty bad, they have poor defenses, small bombs, are slow and huge targets. The Ju88 is better, but doesn't have a very good bombload either. The Do217s however are awesome. Manouverable, the can carry 4x1000kg bombs, which are fantastic in ground forces battles. They get the divebomber reticule as well, so aiming the bombs is easier. The 217s also have decent speed and rear guns that can occasionally snipe enemy pilots. A coup;le of the variants also come with a single 20mm controlled by the pilot. This can't do much, but it means once you've dropped your bombs, you can attack AAA, artillery, or enemy bombers. You aren't super agile like a fighter, but you can still harass the enemy, perhaps allowing your team to come in and kill the fighter you're chasing.

[Thudd]

American bombers go down just by looking at it at a certain angle.

[L0rd Zwu */AUT]

quite many bombers are too fragile for my opinion.

[Rottenflieger]

Yeah, before a lot of people were complaining that bombers took forever to take down, but now they can get shot down by a sneeze. There's gotta be some middle ground somehwere

[Captain Rico]

Publicado originalmente por Rottenflieger:

Bombers aren't crap, however with the current state of the game they aren't as durable as they used to be. In general I think US bombers are some of the best, they have lotsa of defensive guns which can do decnt amounts of damage and set enemy planes on fire.

British bombers I don't have a lot of experience with. The low tier ones are pretty good asthey go against biplanes and other early fighters. The Wellingtons aren't very good afaik, since their turrets don't have very good fields of fire.

Japanese bombers are interesting. many of them are highly manouverable, and some have cannons in the tail. In general they are pretty fragile but manouverable. There are 2 japanese heavy bombers, the G5N1 is awful, it has crappy guns, a poor bombload and wallows around the sky. The G8N1 is better, with lots of 20mm turrets and good speed (however it is still pretty fragile).

Russian Bombers are a mixed bag since there's so many of them. The low tier ones like the SBs have really powerful mgs and are pretty durable, albeit slow. The mid to late tier bombers all have the capacity to carry huge bombs, which makes them pretty devastating in ground forces battles. The Russians also have a wide selection of divebombers. One's such as the IL2s can carry a lot of rockets and bombs, whilst you've also got the PE series which can carry larger bombs.

The German bombers aren't the best. The He 111s are pretty bad, they have poor defenses, small bombs, are slow and huge targets. The Ju88 is better, but doesn't have a very good bombload either. The Do217s however are awesome. Manouverable, the can carry 4x1000kg bombs, which are fantastic in ground forces battles. They get the divebomber reticule as well, so aiming the bombs is easier. The 217s also have decent speed and rear guns that can occasionally snipe enemy pilots. A coup;le of the variants also come with a single 20mm controlled by the pilot. This can't do much, but it means once you've dropped your bombs, you can attack AAA, artillery, or enemy bombers. You aren't super agile like a fighter, but you can still harass the enemy, perhaps allowing your team to come in and kill the fighter you're chasing.

American bombers being good? Sir, I have flown both the B-17 and the B-25 and both are crap (not the gunners), what I mean by this is that the B-25 if you shoot 1 cnn round at it, it loses it's tail instantly INSTANTLY, I dubed it the "worst bomber I ever flew", and the B-17 is good, untill you get spotted, then you lose your wing like "wet paper', still crap, but not as bad as the B-25.

[nikomitk]

IL 28 and Canberra with the hispanos thank me later

[Northern]

If you like feel yourself as prey, play bombers.

[Xi Dong Zhu (腦洞大的人)]

Publicado originalmente por Rico134:

I have flown both the B-17 and the B-25 and both are crap (not the gunners), what I mean by this is that the B-25 if you shoot 1 cnn round at it, it loses it's tail instantly INSTANTLY, I dubed it the "worst bomber I ever flew", and the B-17 is good, untill you get spotted, then you lose your wing like "wet paper', still crap, but not as bad as the B-25.

You mean the Mitchell?

It is one of the BEST planes I have EVER flown. Check my stats - It is a bomber and fighter hunter - I can EASILY take down anything that comes my way - be it head-on or behind me, they die.
I have a decent payload as well.

Don't listen to this troll.

[MaGicBush]

I dunno why everyone is saying bombers are weak now, granted I am new to the game(just unlocked the first SB for Russia a few days ago and now working on the second one). I prefer playing bombers to my other aircraft and damn can they take a beating lol. I usually don't play one till I lose my first plane or two in a match as then other players wont be on the lookout as much for bombers it seems. If I start in one though I get targetted by the whole team it feels like.

Yesterday I was playing a match and had 3 planes following my tail while I was bombing targets, and switching back to my mg. The MG AI took out one enemy plane, and then I took out another all while dropping bombs and killing a few ground targets. The third one eventually shot me down slowly but I kept bombing as I fell lol. My plane had so many bullet holes it was crazy.

[Captain Rico]

Publicado originalmente por Lumixe:

Publicado originalmente por Rico134:

I have flown both the B-17 and the B-25 and both are crap (not the gunners), what I mean by this is that the B-25 if you shoot 1 cnn round at it, it loses it's tail instantly INSTANTLY, I dubed it the "worst bomber I ever flew", and the B-17 is good, untill you get spotted, then you lose your wing like "wet paper', still crap, but not as bad as the B-25.

You mean the Mitchell?

It is one of the BEST planes I have EVER flown. Check my stats - It is a bomber and fighter hunter - I can EASILY take down anything that comes my way - be it head-on or behind me, they die.
I have a decent payload as well.

Don't listen to this troll.

Aperently you have never tried realistic yet with a russian fighter on your tail, I am NOT a troll.

[Rottenflieger]

Publicado originalmente por Lumixe:

You mean the Mitchell?
It is one of the BEST planes I have EVER flown. Check my stats - It is a bomber and fighter hunter - I can EASILY take down anything that comes my way - be it head-on or behind me, they die.
I have a decent payload as well.
Don't listen to this troll.

Rico isn't trolling, he/she has clearly had bad experiences in the B25, which is because of the way bombers act now. They no longer are as durable as they once were.

Publicado originalmente por Rico134:

Aperently you have never tried realistic yet with a russian fighter on your tail, I am NOT a troll.

As I said, all bombers are a lot weaker now, so the B25s durability advantages aren;t really very noticeable any more. It's still beta though, so I can hope they change it back. I haven't flown it much recently, but it was for sure one of my favourite planes, with great frontal armament and decent rear guns. my only major gripe with it was the bombload. I flew the B25 pretty much exclusively in RB and can say that Russian fighters with their big guns are dangerous to practically every bomber, that's not the bomber's fault. There's quite a lot of threads talking about how those particular yaks shouldn't be in the game, although I can't really give an accurate opinion on that since I'm not a historian.

Publicado originalmente por MaGicBush:

I dunno why everyone is saying bombers are weak now, granted I am new to the game(just unlocked the first SB for Russia a few days ago and now working on the second one). I prefer playing bombers to my other aircraft and damn can they take a beating lol. I usually don't play one till I lose my first plane or two in a match as then other players wont be on the lookout as much for bombers it seems. If I start in one though I get targetted by the whole team it feels like.

Yeah taking bombers later on in an arcade match tends to work better for me too, since most fighters are by that stage engaged in a low altitude furball. The SBs are pretty good aircraft, they are durable at their tier and their mgs are really powerful and fast firing. I've had a lot of success using it in groundforces maps, since it can usually deal with stukas and early 109s that it faces. In arcade it can be even more deadly, since it often faces biplanes or really early monoplanes (which often have only a few light mgs). At later tiers though bombers face fighters with lots of 20mm and 30mm cannons, which can rip them apart. I agree though that flying bombers can be a really fun experience.

[Egro]

A Yak look at you and half of your wing is gone, that the reality many bombers face. At least it's very sastisfying when some one dive right into your 20mm turrets. Any way, you can make a lot of easy lions by playing Bombers so it's worth it.