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Hashbrown 2015 年 5 月 7 日 下午 12:03
Tiger h1... is bad
So i bought the prem IV command tank to level me up to tiger. I did pretty damn good at the 4.7 BR but i died quite a lot to one shots. I thought tiger would change this. Umm wrong.....

First. The gun on the tiger sucks... the fire rate is slower than my old tanks. The damage it deals is more or less the SAME as my old tanks. I get more kill assists as tiger than actual kills.

Secondly. Wow! i followed all the advice from ppl to play tiger from a range, defensively, and even lowered my ammo to 20 . This does squat.

My ammo still gets hit. I still get one shotted. If i don't get one shotted, the first hit will knock or wound almost my entire crew... I thought Tiger was known for good crew survivability.. guess not..

Worst of all, I'm angling, following all the tips--- and i get the same results.

I hear a lot of.. club or be clubbed. So i've played about 30 matches so far as tiger.. and all of them has me uptiered to fight 6.0+ BR people. Fun.

One fight stands out most of all that is telling of my experience as a tiger so far.

A m18 charges at me in an alley way. We both get into a close combat brawl. We both fire at each other constantly. I shot at him 5 times point blank in his face... and only 1 of those 5 shots was critical.....

But him? oh thats easy, he killed me. Of course right? Because i'm a tiger.

Whatever people say... the Tiger h1 needs a reworking..a buff.. a new BR..SOMETHING. Because atm, the tiger h1 and germany is unplayable and not fun.

I looked forward to the tiger as something cool. its now the worst ♥♥♥♥ i ever used.
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Doc 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 12:12 
I love one shotting Tigers all day in the M18, they can't even traverse fast enough to stop you.
That girl from K-On! 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 1:38 
The M18 isnt that hard to kill, the problem is people dont carry HE, so their rounds over pen and dont do anything aim to the right of the gun or left from the front and their is ammo there behind its 50mm gun mantlet
Less 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 1:56 
i have a talisman on tiger 1 h and it works pretty well. No problems for me. He is very durable with a good gun.
Rottenflieger 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 3:42 
I really like the Tiger H1 and it's by far my highest scoring tank. I think the problem is that the shells of your 88 are penetrating through the armour of the m18s and exploding too late. You've got to aim for the ammo racks to do some serious damage.

I carry about 30 shells in the tiger, I reckon 20 is a bit too few, but if you can manage with that many, then by all means go for it :) 30 shells keeps one whole side empty of ammo, which I use to my advantage by always angling that side towards the enemy. However as you've already noticed it doesn't do you any good if the guy shooting you gets lucky or knows where the last ammo is stored.

As for getting uptiered, I recommend you go to the game options menu and disable "Join already going battles" which will help reduce the chance of you getting dragged up a bit.

I don't think the tiger needs a buff though, it's just these new tank destroyers that everyone's still learning how to counter that are offputting. Stick with your team and you should be ok. In fact, I'd say you are better off getting in to close quarters with teammates than fighting at long range by yourself, since you can be easily flanked. Hopefully this helps :)
Rimming Enjoyer 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 3:44 
Chesus, The Tiger H1 is a perfectly good tank. Just don't show your big gaping hole on your front towards your enemies, angle your tank. It's used best for sniping.
KU27PS 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:16 
Tiger II H is probably the gameplay style you after that thing can often take alot of hits. Vs the M18 try high explosive(?). To play Tiger 1 well you pretty much have to be supported which in arc attracts bombers.
O Pai! 2017 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:08 
I know what you're feeling, just got a Tiger H1, i'm not even playing the game anymore because of the crazy matchmaking system, it is just not fun to play against M 46s and T-29s, they one shot the Tiger everytime. Matches against 6.7 BR tanks (witch is almost everytime) are frustrating.
яise 2017 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:21 
the wehrabaoos are going to #%&@ murder you

angle the tiger though, this still makes me laugh, because theres no way to angle the tiger to above 120MM because the armor beneath the sponsons is about 60mm thick.

when people say the tiger has good armor
https://youtu.be/b6H5ZDUwVSI?t=9
M1 Garand 2017 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 Kurt Ancap
I know what you're feeling, just got a Tiger H1, i'm not even playing the game anymore because of the crazy matchmaking system, it is just not fun to play against M 46s and T-29s, they one shot the Tiger everytime. Matches against 6.7 BR tanks (witch is almost everytime) are frustrating.
Did you really just necro a post that is almost TWO YEARS OLD?!
Rimming Enjoyer 2017 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:36 
引用自 яise
the wehrabaoos are going to #%&@ murder you

angle the tiger though, this still makes me laugh, because theres no way to angle the tiger to above 120MM because the armor beneath the sponsons is about 60mm thick.

when people say the tiger has good armor
https://youtu.be/b6H5ZDUwVSI?t=9
The Tiger's armor in War Thunder, is literally paper. Front? 100% Pen. Sides? 100% Pen. Rear? 100% Pen.

Only good thing about it, is the cannon.
ReaperV 2017 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:39 
*facepalm*

This is 100% a player problem, not a tank problem. The Tiger's stock shells have excellent explosive filler, and about 90% of the time all you have to do is aim at the middle of somebody and they die.

Face-hugging with an M18 is silly, as the 'angles' involved in being that close to it, with the spaced mantlet (which is actually not that thin and is well-angled enough to auto-bounce if you hit it at the wrong angle) on the turret will never work in your favor, especially considering the Tiger's square... everything.

There is nothing you can do if you push too far behind enemy lines and get flanked or clowned by a player with a lot more experience in another tank. I have actually done the same exact thing by face-hugging a T34 1942 with an M10, with very similar results... does this mean there is now anti-Russian bias and the damn T34's need to be buffed? No.

The Premium Tiger has more hull armor frontally and the same, exact, gun. If you really played the Tiger I P and thought the Tiger I H was an upgrade, that's very odd... and considering that they are both at 5.7 BR, I'm not sure what to tell you... yes, they can fight up to 6.7 BR tanks. I currently have a similar line-up to yours, minus the mindless grinding with a Premium tank to skip all of the other tanks leading up to the Tiger H 1 (I actually played and maxed them), and while my stock tanks don't currently have the best K/D ratios, they are far from the garbage you are making them sound like.
Illusionyary 2017 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:43 
引用自 ReaperV
The Premium Tiger has more hull armor frontally and the same, exact, gun. If you really played the Tiger I P and thought the Tiger I H was an upgrade, that's very odd... and considering that they are both at 5.7 BR, I'm not sure what to tell you... yes, they can fight up to 6.7 BR tanks. I currently have a similar line-up to yours, minus the mindless grinding with a Premium tank to skip all of the other tanks leading up to the Tiger H 1 (I actually played and maxed them), and while my stock tanks don't currently have the best K/D ratios, they are far from the garbage you are making them sound like.
OP was talking about the premium Panzer IV not the Tiger P.
ReaperV 2017 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:44 
引用自 Alx
引用自 яise
the wehrabaoos are going to #%&@ murder you

angle the tiger though, this still makes me laugh, because theres no way to angle the tiger to above 120MM because the armor beneath the sponsons is about 60mm thick.

when people say the tiger has good armor
https://youtu.be/b6H5ZDUwVSI?t=9
The Tiger's armor in War Thunder, is literally paper. Front? 100% Pen. Sides? 100% Pen. Rear? 100% Pen.

Only good thing about it, is the cannon.

The word "literally" does not mean what you think it does. Unless an opponent has all day to sit and aim for weak spots, that 100mm of frontal armor can be positioned to eat shells of lots of tanks at NORMAL combat ranges of 500-1,000 meters.

People that don't understand that a corner/wedge will ricochet APCR and many other types of ammo beyond just "blocking" based on some effective armor number like in some sort of RPG are the ones who whine the loudest.

Yeah, and to penetrate below the sides of the tank would require for the shell to travel through THICK tracks and to be exposed in the first place by having your Tiger on flat ground with no cover... any tank that dies like that deserves the death.
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Chaotic Harmony 2017 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:48 
Also this is a TWO year old thread; M18 will one shot you if you let it. H1 will one shot it if you place a shot in the racks (Also M18 is affected by hull break right?). The OP was overpenning and overthinking; i rarely play german 5.7 anymore though. Too many british tanks are getting dragged down to feed 5.7; they get hull-down and go to town on us.

Mod just needs to lock dis
ReaperV 2017 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:50 
引用自 Illusionyary
引用自 ReaperV
The Premium Tiger has more hull armor frontally and the same, exact, gun. If you really played the Tiger I P and thought the Tiger I H was an upgrade, that's very odd... and considering that they are both at 5.7 BR, I'm not sure what to tell you... yes, they can fight up to 6.7 BR tanks. I currently have a similar line-up to yours, minus the mindless grinding with a Premium tank to skip all of the other tanks leading up to the Tiger H 1 (I actually played and maxed them), and while my stock tanks don't currently have the best K/D ratios, they are far from the garbage you are making them sound like.
OP was talking about the premium Panzer IV not the Tiger P.

Thank you for clarifying, I assumed he was talking about the Tier as being IV and meant 5.7 BR since the Tiger 1 P is also a command tank.

I guess that changes my thought of him having any experience with a Tiger and an 8.8 prior to the Tiger H 1, but now in a different way, as surely he's faced off against some in his Pz IV and seen what people do with them... not to mention their numbers in most matches and how often I assume he was 1-shotted by them. Me not knowing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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