2S38 or T-80UD and why?

[𝐘𝐨𝐮]

I wanna buy one of these cars

[HotBeef RibsSteak]

T80UD if your playstyle is agressive

if you are a calm and calculated person and like to support teammate go for 2S38, you will get one shotted a lot in 2S38 if you are rushing and showing your front armor to enemy

[Wandering Flare]

2S38, T-80UD is hardly different from all the other T-80s you can get for free.

[𝐘𝐨𝐮]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

2S38, T-80UD is hardly different from all the other T-80s you can get for free.

contact-5?

[Sawblade Shieldslave]

2S38 if ur good since u need to aim for weakspots but it also has 20 rapid fire shots and in the next patch that will be increased to however many you take into battle.

[Devilman275]

2S38 is a great multi-role too, best AA out there

[xCrossFaith]

2S38 if you want people to spend more time complaining about you than actualy shooting at you

T-80 of you want a more standard mbt experience

[Shyue Chou]

I see the T-80UD as being somewhat equivalent to a late model T-72B, specifically, the T-72B (1989). No thermals, horrible reverse speed.

I don't have it but I should think it is a good vehicle for progression purposes.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by SLONYARA:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

2S38, T-80UD is hardly different from all the other T-80s you can get for free.

contact-5?

Barely makes a difference, anything short of Relict can't stop darts at its BR and Relict just stops any dart in the game.

[chicks99]

T80UD because it has 125mm cannon compared to 57mm on the 2S38.

Bigger is better when it comes to one shotting your enemies. Also the T80UD can actually tank hits unlike the piece of crap 2S38, which will die the moment somebody sneezes on it.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by chicks99:

T80UD because it has 125mm cannon compared to 57mm on the 2S38.

Bigger is better when it comes to one shotting your enemies. Also the T80UD can actually tank hits unlike the piece of crap 2S38, which will die the moment somebody sneezes on it.

Low tier ah take.

[chicks99]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Low tier ah take.

Nah I'm spitting straight facts and no cap. 125mm APFSDS has more mass than NATO 105mm and 120mm APFSDS rounds, leading to more spalling. Check the stat card on 3BM60 the next time you get blasted by its massive cone of spall.

57mm APFSDS on the 2S38 is garbage compared to any of the 3 above calibers and will take multiple shots to kill a target most of the time.

Instant kill vs putting 3-5 shots into the target wasting 2 or so seconds, your choice lmfao.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by chicks99:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Low tier ah take.

Nah I'm spitting straight facts and no cap. 125mm APFSDS has more mass than NATO 105mm and 120mm APFSDS rounds, leading to more spalling. Check the stat card on 3BM60 the next time you get blasted by its massive cone of spall.

57mm APFSDS on the 2S38 is garbage compared to any of the 3 above calibers and will take multiple shots to kill a target most of the time.

Instant kill vs putting 3-5 shots into the target wasting 2 or so seconds, your choice lmfao.

Because the size of the round is the only thing that counts, huh. I wonder why FV4005 isn't literally the best vehicle in the entire game.

[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by Debilman275:

2S38 is a great multi-role too, best AA out there

I used to think that as well, but there are plenty of situations you actually need missiles, notably any of the LEO guided bombers and helis that are too far out for AC fire to reach. For now, still bringing a strela/2S6 is a must.

[VVaЯF0xу]

Originally posted by chicks99:

T80UD because it has 125mm cannon compared to 57mm on the 2S38.

Bigger is better when it comes to one shotting your enemies. Also the T80UD can actually tank hits unlike the piece of crap 2S38, which will die the moment somebody sneezes on it.

I call it BAIT.

[chicks99]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by chicks99:

Nah I'm spitting straight facts and no cap. 125mm APFSDS has more mass than NATO 105mm and 120mm APFSDS rounds, leading to more spalling. Check the stat card on 3BM60 the next time you get blasted by its massive cone of spall.

57mm APFSDS on the 2S38 is garbage compared to any of the 3 above calibers and will take multiple shots to kill a target most of the time.

Instant kill vs putting 3-5 shots into the target wasting 2 or so seconds, your choice lmfao.

Because the size of the round is the only thing that counts, huh. I wonder why FV4005 isn't literally the best vehicle in the entire game.

1) Because the FV4005 is British.
2) I never claimed it’s the best vehicle, but that would go to either a battleship or a modern jet because a jet is more advanced and a battleship has more raw devastating firepower.
3) It’s a tank destroyer and not a MBT, the doctrine behind it is decades out of date.
4) Size of the round matters. I don’t care if it’s an Abrams or a Maus, neither is surviving a direct hit from a 16 inch battleship round.
5) The OBJ292 with its 152mm APFSDS is better than even the Leopard 2A7 in terms of penetration and damage. But even a battleship will dwarf its damage potential. When is the last time you saw a tank kill a battleship?