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A.P Kult Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:25pm
Is every one playing Tigers?
Serious question here, is everyone playing German going for the Tiger? Since I've hit tier III tanks, all I see in my matches are Tigers. Literally all I see. Like 6 in one game (not even kidding, I counted them). It slowed my progress to a crawl (wtf is a 76mm T34 or KV1 gonna do to a Tiger?). Even with the 57 mm T34 and SU 85, I'm still having trouble dealing with them. I know all the usual tricks, "flank, shoot the rear and side, shoot the driver's viewport, etc" but I can't deal with that many at the same time.

So yeah, being one-shotted from across the map gets old pretty fast, and it seems my team isn't doing much better than me either.

I'm not saying it's OP, I just feel like the battle rating is too low for what that tank can do. A T34 1943 and KV1 zis-5 should not be pitched against Tigers.

I'm done ranting now.
Last edited by A.P Kult; Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:26pm
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Egro Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:41pm 
You literally have 3 tanks to play with once you reach the Tiger: Tiger, Panther, and a Jagdpanzer. So yeah everyone who play german are gonna have a Tiger. And no, the BR is not low at all. Go and play German, You will cry a river because the BR is a lot higher than it should be.
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PanamaRed Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:55pm 
Isn't that new "super" tank that's up and coming in the Tiger line?

That might explain why.
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A.P Kult Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by ARC8Egro:
You literally have 3 tanks to play with once you reach the Tiger: Tiger, Panther, and a Jagdpanzer. So yeah everyone who play german are gonna have a Tiger. And no, the BR is not low at all. Go and play German, You will cry a river because the BR is a lot higher than it should be.

So T34 1943 vs Tiger is ok? Alright then, I see what I'm dealing with.

Care to explain how "BR is a lot higher than it should be" for the Germans then?
Spaddobird Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:18pm 
Yes, and everybody seems to be pretty bad at it too. It's as if most players think that just because they are in a Tiger tank that they can forget angling their armour and playing the objective. The majority of Tigers simply sit 200m or so from their spawn taking pot shots at enemy tanks on the other side of the map.

You should be more scared of Panthers, they are smaller, faster, more agile, have a better cannon and have considerably more effective frontal armour.

All your really need to do on maps like Poland and East Europe is rush the zones and capture them, the Tigers often don't even go anywhere near the zones and it takes them a long time to get there if they do. You can just wait outside the capture point for them to start capping it and then flank them.

Remember that the T-34 85, Su-85 and IS-1 can penetrate the Tiger through the front however if they are smart and angle their armour it would be unwise to attempt this.

Tier III USSR research is hard but not impossible, once you get the IS-1 it is easier. The T-34 85 is very nice as well.

A.P Kult Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:20pm 
Originally posted by Spaddobird:
Yes, and everybody seems to be pretty bad at it too. It's as if most players think that just because they are in a Tiger tank that they can forget angling their armour and playing the objective. The majority of Tigers simply sit 200m or so from their spawn taking pot shots at enemy tanks on the other side of the map.

You should be more scared of Panthers, they are smaller, faster, more agile, have a better cannon and have considerably more effective frontal armour.

All your really need to do on maps like Poland and East Europe is rush the zones and capture them, the Tigers often don't even go anywhere near the zones and it takes them a long time to get there if they do. You can just wait outside the capture point for them to start capping it and then flank them.

Remember that the T-34 85, Su-85 and IS-1 can penetrate the Tiger through the front however if they are smart and angle their armour it would be unwise to attempt this.

Tier III USSR research is hard but not impossible, once you get the IS-1 it is easier. The T-34 85 is very nice as well.

Thanks for the tips, all see what I can do.
Spaddobird Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by SocialistSnowman |QC|:
Thanks for the tips, all see what I can do.

If you do get the IS-1 remember not to angle your armour, that tank is built to have maximum effective thickness from the front. Just pray that Panthers and Jagdpanzers don't shoot your driver's port haha.
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Egro Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:38pm 
Originally posted by SocialistSnowman |QC|:
Originally posted by ARC8Egro:
You literally have 3 tanks to play with once you reach the Tiger: Tiger, Panther, and a Jagdpanzer. So yeah everyone who play german are gonna have a Tiger. And no, the BR is not low at all. Go and play German, You will cry a river because the BR is a lot higher than it should be.

So T34 1943 vs Tiger is ok? Alright then, I see what I'm dealing with.

Care to explain how "BR is a lot higher than it should be" for the Germans then?
The Tiger Br is 5.7 which mean you are gonna face T34-85, IS2, SU-100 some time there will be a few T-44, IS-2 mod mix in. These tanks can kill a Tiger very easy. Even if there are only Tier III tanks the Tiger will still face very strong T34-85, IS1, SU152.


A Tiger is slow + slow turret traverse + not working most of the time 88mm. The majority of players have little problem to deal with it. I've been killing tons of Tigers in My weak Panzer IV while compare to You who are using an angle master Tank, I don't see why you want to rant about it.
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Spaddobird Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:38pm 
Originally posted by ♥♥Desolator♥♥:

Competent Tiger driver is invincible. IS-1 is only real threat to it. And yes most Tiger I players suck because they see Tiger and are like, "Oh Tiger must be good."

The force is strong with this one.

The IS-1 isn't really a threat either if you understand the way its armour works. What lets the Tiger down is its driver and if not that then its team. One Tiger doing the right thing does not equate to a win for the team... you need at least two Tigers for that :P
Probably Lime Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by ♥♥Desolator♥♥:
Originally posted by Spaddobird:

If you do get the IS-1 remember not to angle your armour, that tank is built to have maximum effective thickness from the front. Just pray that Panthers and Jagdpanzers don't shoot your driver's port haha.

Competent Tiger driver is invincible. IS-1 is only real threat to it. And yes most Tiger I players suck because they see Tiger and are like, "Oh Tiger must be good."

And the IS-1 is probably the worst tank the USSR has matchmaking wise. Panthers eat it alive and if it gets into a match with Tiger IIs and Jadgdpanthers you might as well just quit right then and there.

At least the Tiger I has a chance against an IS-2, as long as it sees the Ruskie first. Even the IS-1s APCR is minimally effective against the things it gets uptiered to face.
A.P Kult Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by ARC8Egro:
The Tiger Br is 5.7 which mean you are gonna face T34-85, IS2, SU-100 some time there will be a few T-44, IS-2 mod mix in. These tanks can kill a Tiger very easy. A Tiger is slow + slow turret traverse + not working most of the time 88mm. The majority of players have little problem to deal with it. I've been killing tons of Tigers in My weak Panzer IV while compare to You who are using an angle master Tank, I don't see why you want to rant about it.

You see, the thing is I haven't seen a SU100, IS2 or a T44 yet, the best I've had in my team is a IS1, a SU85m and a ISU152. It's always me and a bunch of m4a1s, if I'm lucky one of them has a 76mm, vs a whole lot of panthers and tigers. It gets frustrating after a while.
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Egro Feb 13, 2015 @ 11:29pm 
Originally posted by SocialistSnowman |QC|:
Originally posted by ARC8Egro:
The Tiger Br is 5.7 which mean you are gonna face T34-85, IS2, SU-100 some time there will be a few T-44, IS-2 mod mix in. These tanks can kill a Tiger very easy. A Tiger is slow + slow turret traverse + not working most of the time 88mm. The majority of players have little problem to deal with it. I've been killing tons of Tigers in My weak Panzer IV while compare to You who are using an angle master Tank, I don't see why you want to rant about it.

You see, the thing is I haven't seen a SU100, IS2 or a T44 yet, the best I've had in my team is a IS1, a SU85m and a ISU152. It's always me and a bunch of m4a1s, if I'm lucky one of them has a 76mm, vs a whole lot of panthers and tigers. It gets frustrating after a while.

well yeah, it's because a lot of people are leveling USF tanks at the moment so you are more likely to get into a match with low Br USF tanks meanwhile the German don't have any allies and most German players are pretty high up there with their Panther and Tiger so it's harder to match you with lower Br. German players compare to the USF player. But still, I rarely get a match where I don't need to deal with tanks that have a lot higher Br than mine.

It's better in Sim however. Tiger can't camp in a spawn point and shot someone across the map any more, and it is a easier to flank. The only downside is the bloody wait time.
Kilroyiv Feb 14, 2015 @ 4:03am 
Don't forget facing the M26 which with its final shell can penetrate the tiger at nearly any angle in every part of the tank from 500m+... When I say nearly any it needs to be like a 60 degree to have a hope of bouncing it.
ASUS GAMING Feb 14, 2015 @ 7:52am 
Tiger tank where one of the best tanks of the day and they looked good. and being oneshotted from across the map is common and sucks but thats part of the game. We just have to learn from it and get better so we can dish it back to them.:p2wheatley: ;)
Drive2xs Feb 14, 2015 @ 8:58am 
Tiger is a slow sniper at best, which reqiures flanks shots to excel since the gun is handicapped without Pz40 ammo. The Panther is a far superior tank with an equal BR.


It's an iconic tank, which anyone remotely interested in WWII knows therefore it's very popular.

Tiger needs to be dropped to 5.2/3 BR at best.

Probably Lime Feb 14, 2015 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by drive2xs:
Tiger is a slow sniper at best, which reqiures flanks shots to excel since the gun is handicapped without Pz40 ammo. The Panther is a far superior tank with an equal BR.


It's an iconic tank, which anyone remotely interested in WWII knows therefore it's very popular.

Tiger needs to be dropped to 5.2/3 BR at best.
There is no 5.2BR.

The Tiger H is being moved to 5.3 in the next update. The Tiger E is coming in with APCR ammo at 5.7.
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